Navy rotary to airlines transition
#11
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Interesting. All the postings I looked at were 300+ PIC of kingair/similar required and 1k fw time. If they relax those for helo dudes then that's cool. I assume the bro network (and airline hiring trend as of late) helps in that regard as well as there are probably fewer people willing to go back to the desert after retiring. That said, I still think checking the 121 box, getting a jet type/time, at 800 hrs/year, for $60k first year pay is a better choice for someone with OPs background, but family situation, financial situation, other stuff on his resume all may give him (or anyone reading this) a different perspective. I had people in my regional class coming from several years overseas (ISR and airline) and know a couple at my current airline who did the same. I also know some people left my regional for ISR jobs. Different strokes for different folks, I guess.
#12
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If you're still in have you looked at the VR route? That along with a regional job (ability to mil drop, QOL control, safety net) is how a lot of you slow kids have made the move. Lots of VR flying to be done, and if you can get into a C-130 unit, the airplane is so slow you'll bag hours at a mind boggling rate.
#14
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L3 and Avenge have SIC Intro programs- look at their respective careers page for latest requirements.
Avenge pays about 30% less than the L-3 gig (approx regional FO pay now that it increased) requires Sitting 2 years of SIC before possibly getting to log PIC the third year getting paid 30% than L-3 PICs.
L-3 they'll allegedly upgrade to PIC once you've got the required minimums to sign for the plane as PIC vs 2-3 years at Avenge.
The ISR operators are good gigs for some folks, however in the OPs situation I would go to an AA WO regional with a Helo to Hero program. It will take 3-4 years for a Helo to fixed wing guy to have enough hours to apply to most majors, 121/jet/ PIC time is probably going to help their resume more than a bunch of 91 King Air time with 20-30% PIC by the end. By that time they can keep all their apps updated and still make it to AA if someone else doesn't pick them up first.
Avenge pays about 30% less than the L-3 gig (approx regional FO pay now that it increased) requires Sitting 2 years of SIC before possibly getting to log PIC the third year getting paid 30% than L-3 PICs.
L-3 they'll allegedly upgrade to PIC once you've got the required minimums to sign for the plane as PIC vs 2-3 years at Avenge.
The ISR operators are good gigs for some folks, however in the OPs situation I would go to an AA WO regional with a Helo to Hero program. It will take 3-4 years for a Helo to fixed wing guy to have enough hours to apply to most majors, 121/jet/ PIC time is probably going to help their resume more than a bunch of 91 King Air time with 20-30% PIC by the end. By that time they can keep all their apps updated and still make it to AA if someone else doesn't pick them up first.
#16
Here is a paste from the L-3 SIC thread. PM the thread starter, he is a company recruiter. You will be put in a Red Bird sim during the interview. If you are IFR proficient and a competent pilot then it should not be a problem. Money is good and the time off is great. Sure beats regional pay.
General Requirements
21 years of age
US Citizenship
Current US passport
Current DoD Security Clearance
Valid State Driver’s License
Read, write, speak and understand English
FAA Requirements
FAA Instrument Airplane certificate
Commercial Pilot, Airplane Multiengine Land
FAA Second Class Medical certificate (minimum of nine months remaining)
Flight Time Requirements
Minimum of 1,000 hours of total documented flight time
500 hours Pilot in Command (PIC)
When evaluating the flight time of applicants meeting the basic qualifications, consideration will be given to, among other things, quality, quantity, recent experience, and verifiability of training; complexity of aircraft flown; types of flight operations; and hours flown as PIC in turbine powered aircraft. Applicants invited to interview must provide appropriate documentation of all flight hours.
Preferred Requirements
200 hours Turbine time
200 hours of Instrument (actual) time
300 hours PIC airplane multi-engine land
Other
Must be able to obtain and maintain a US DOD Secret Security Clearance
Pre-employment drug test and a medical exam administered by L-3
Criminal history records check and a background check will be performed
General Requirements
21 years of age
US Citizenship
Current US passport
Current DoD Security Clearance
Valid State Driver’s License
Read, write, speak and understand English
FAA Requirements
FAA Instrument Airplane certificate
Commercial Pilot, Airplane Multiengine Land
FAA Second Class Medical certificate (minimum of nine months remaining)
Flight Time Requirements
Minimum of 1,000 hours of total documented flight time
500 hours Pilot in Command (PIC)
When evaluating the flight time of applicants meeting the basic qualifications, consideration will be given to, among other things, quality, quantity, recent experience, and verifiability of training; complexity of aircraft flown; types of flight operations; and hours flown as PIC in turbine powered aircraft. Applicants invited to interview must provide appropriate documentation of all flight hours.
Preferred Requirements
200 hours Turbine time
200 hours of Instrument (actual) time
300 hours PIC airplane multi-engine land
Other
Must be able to obtain and maintain a US DOD Secret Security Clearance
Pre-employment drug test and a medical exam administered by L-3
Criminal history records check and a background check will be performed
#17
Sir, whatever route you take please be sure to get a minimum of 25 hours of Multi Engine time. The ATP requires 50 hours of ME however 25 of that can come from the initial training at an Airline. Best of luck.
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