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Originally Posted by Blackhawk
(Post 176158)
Again, a bunch of hooey.
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Originally Posted by Thedude
(Post 179280)
Show me your refrences about how far the real dollar is worth today vs 20 yrs ago
http://www.cato.org/events/powerpoin...441_graph7.pdf Here is the link to the Cato institute rebutle to the Pew article: http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=8274 Here is a good quote about this from the article: "The Pew-Brookings paper claims we face "rapidly growing income inequality" because "the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) finds that between 1979 and 2004, the real after-tax income of the poorest one-fifth of Americans rose by 9 percent, that of the richest one-fifth by 69 percent, and that of the top 1 percent by 176 percent." What happened for several years after 1979 was dominated by horrific inflationary recessions from 1980 to 1982. From 1988 to 2004, by contrast, the CBO says the poorest one-fifth saw their share of after-tax income rise from 2.7 percent to 3.4 percent, while that of the top fifth fell from 59.3 percent to 57 percent and the share of the top 1 percent was unchanged, at 13.4 percent. On the day of Mrs. Clinton's speech, Brookings Institution senior fellow Ron Haskins wrote about "The Rise of the Bottom Fifth" in The Washington Post. He noted that from 1991 to 2005, the real earnings among the bottom fifth of families with children increased "by 80 percent, compared with around 50 percent for the highest-income group and around 20 percent for each of the other three groups." Trust me, I grew up in the 60's and 70's. I came from a poor family of 7 kids. We're far better off today than we were then. If there is a problem, it is the inability of people today to save. Too many "necessities". |
The above points out how careful you must be for taking at face value what you here in the media, especially NPR. For example, in addition to hearing "The rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer", we often hear that there are 48,000,000 uninsured Americans, and we take this as the truth as we hear it on NPR,CBS, NBS, ABC and FOX ALL the time. So I went back and hunted down the question that was asked to get this number.
The question asked by the Current Population Survey (CPS), was not: "Are you currently without insurance." The question asked WAS: "In the past 12 months ending two months ago, have you ever been without health insurance." First, it was found that many answered this question incorrectly (people answered negative when they had health insurance through someone else). Second, since we are talking about a long time from (12 months), many people who anwer this question correctly currently have insurance. It was found that this number is over stated by at least a factor of 2. So when you hear numbers thrown around on the TV and radio, don't just believe them. Find out where they came from. |
Originally Posted by Blackhawk
(Post 179486)
Real income per household member rose to $22,966 in 2003 from $16,420 in 1983 (in 2003 dollars)--a 40% gain.
$16,420 in 1983 has the same buying power as $30,344 in 2003. Looks like real income per household member in 2003 is only 76% of what it was 20 years earlier. |
Originally Posted by LabDad
(Post 180090)
$16,420 in 1983 has the same buying power as $30,344 in 2003.
Looks like real income per household member in 2003 is only 76% of what it was 20 years earlier. |
Originally Posted by jetcaptain
(Post 175318)
Vagabond's comment reminds me of a good book that everyone should read.
Parlay Your IRA into a Family Fortune by Ed Slott. The overall goal is to keep your inheritance working for you and not the goverment. |
Originally Posted by Blackhawk
(Post 179613)
The above points out how careful you must be for taking at face value what you here in the media, especially NPR. For example, in addition to hearing "The rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer", we often hear that there are 48,000,000 uninsured Americans, and we take this as the truth as we hear it on NPR,CBS, NBS, ABC and FOX ALL the time. So I went back and hunted down the question that was asked to get this number.
The question asked by the Current Population Survey (CPS), was not: "Are you currently without insurance." The question asked WAS: "In the past 12 months ending two months ago, have you ever been without health insurance." First, it was found that many answered this question incorrectly (people answered negative when they had health insurance through someone else). Second, since we are talking about a long time from (12 months), many people who anwer this question correctly currently have insurance. It was found that this number is over stated by at least a factor of 2. So when you hear numbers thrown around on the TV and radio, don't just believe them. Find out where they came from. |
Originally Posted by sigtauenus
(Post 194345)
a plan that would allow my estate to give each of my grandkids/great grandkids say $10,000 at birth to be invested.
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Rule Against Perpetuity? Somebody actually came up with a rule against that? WTF? Social Security is going to be defunct, I have an idea that will keep my family forever off the dole, and its illegal? Wow, I guess I need to throw out this bowl of wheaties, they taste like #$%!.
I'm off to google the Rule Against Perpetuity... |
I was just giving you a bit of friendly advice. There is no need to be antagonistic and use four letter words. And I didn't make up that rule; it's been around for a very, very long time, and there's a reason for its existence. I am not saying your situation with your estate falls into its purview. I am merely suggesting you ask your lawyer because many do not understand the rule and draft incorrectly, which causes problems in the future.
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