Airline Pilot Central Forums

Airline Pilot Central Forums (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/)
-   Money Talk (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/money-talk/)
-   -   Realistic pay scales (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/money-talk/33277-realistic-pay-scales.html)

HercDriver130 11-15-2008 09:32 AM

Now there is an interesting concept. Many trade unions have apprenticeship programs. Electricians for example at a ship yard near where I live.... hire apprentice electricians... they split their time between doing grunt work in the yard and class work over a 2-3 year period at which time they become full union members with seniority at the bottom but making much more than they did as an apprentice.

The problem to some extent is with the regulations which allow a 121 FO to basically have nothing more than a wet commercial ME ticket. If the FARs required an ATP even in the right seat that would at least be a start. Further complicating matters is the vast number of ways to get experience in aviation.

Couple that fact with how easy it really is to acquire even an ATP well, there you have it. Perhaps if the system was tougher and fewer people qualified... supply would fall...demand would increase and theoretically so would compensation. The unfortunate side is that other than the military ... learning to fly is a business...... and frankly how many CFI's have ever told a student..."you just are not cut out for this"... and refused to continue working on their PPL, or Commercial or instrument rating. NO... the buck speaks and the boss says as long as he is willing to pay... take him up and fly him. Last year I was introduced to a young man who was working on his PPL.... he had 34 hours in a 172 over the previous 4 weeks... and had YET to solo..... Maybe I am in the minority here.... but something tells me that guy may not be the best guy to be a professional pilot... and his intention was to do just that. Just my opinion.

BTDT 11-15-2008 10:01 AM


Originally Posted by HercDriver130 (Post 499199)
learning to fly is a business...... and frankly how many CFI's have ever told a student..."you just are not cut out for this"... and refused to continue working on their PPL, or Commercial or instrument rating. NO... the buck speaks and the boss says as long as he is willing to pay... take him up and fly him. .

Yep, back in my CFI days I wanted so badly to tell some to "hang it up" but the boss wouldn't let me. If I did and word got back to the employer there would be serious repercussions.

One of my former employers even wanted me to teach a deaf mute to learn to fly and said my name would be all over the papers if I suceeded. Oh, just make up a bunch of index cards with explainations on them. It took me a nanosecond to refuse.

Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the flight school that taught the 9/11 hijackers find it odd they weren't concerned about landings? They had money so take 'em up.


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 09:02 AM.


Website Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands