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lolwut 10-26-2011 07:07 PM

State Tax for commuters
 
Sort of confused on how state taxes work for commuting airline pilots.

Say you live in New York, your airline is headquartered in Texas, and your base is in Illinois.

Which of the 3 states do you end up having to pay state taxes in?

Say you maintain an apartment and car in Illinois at your base as a home-away-from-home for reserve but do not claim residency there. Does this change anything?

fisherpilot 10-26-2011 07:13 PM

Wherever your permanent residence is.... In this case it would be NY

EngineOut 10-26-2011 07:16 PM


Originally Posted by lolwut (Post 1075660)
Sort of confused on how state taxes work for commuting airline pilots.

Say you live in New York, your airline is headquartered in Texas, and your base is in Illinois.

Which of the 3 states do you end up having to pay state taxes in?

Say you maintain an apartment and car in Illinois at your base as a home-away-from-home for reserve but do not claim residency there. Does this change anything?

New York...but Illinois could make a case that you should be paying them state income taxes as well by having a domicile (apartment) and vehicle in their state. You'd have to check with the state of Illinois to determine their tax-residency test.

I live in Washington state (no income tax) right across the river from my Portland, OR base (income tax -- you bet!). I've heard stories of Oregon going after some of our Washington-residing pilots who do a "majority" of their flying within the borders of Oregon.

FlyingViking 10-26-2011 07:17 PM


Originally Posted by fisherpilot (Post 1075663)
Wherever your permanent residence is.... In this case it would be NY

And everything else is a business expense.

qball 10-26-2011 08:42 PM

Just be sure the state you claim is where you really live (ie reside more than 50%)...and can prove it. Better yet if that state has no income tax. Do otherwise could invite some very nasty attention...as a few past co workers found out.


Originally Posted by fisherpilot (Post 1075663)
Wherever your permanent residence is.... In this case it would be NY


sailingfun 10-26-2011 10:32 PM


Originally Posted by qball (Post 1075709)
Just be sure the state you claim is where you really live (ie reside more than 50%)...and can prove it. Better yet if that state has no income tax. Do otherwise could invite some very nasty attention...as a few past co workers found out.


States have been getting smarter on this issue so document your non rev travel. If a state calls you in to audit where you reside they are going to ask for your non rev travel records, credit card records and cell phone records. Remember your cell phone always knows where you are on any given day.

Also keep in mind its a income tax. If you do more then 50 percent of your actual work in one state you owe taxes in that state. Many Delta pilots found that out the hard way while working in the training department in Atlanta.

NuGuy 10-26-2011 10:56 PM

Keep good records if you have a car or lease in the base state.

Twin Wasp 10-27-2011 12:05 AM


Originally Posted by FlyingViking (Post 1075666)
And everything else is a business expense.

You might want to read IRS Publication 463.

4andCounting 10-27-2011 04:37 AM


Originally Posted by Twin Wasp (Post 1075746)
You might want to read IRS Publication 463.


I agree it specificly states that commuting expenses are not deductable. Temporary, of less than one year assignments can be partially deducted at a percentage of total. Be careful, My best friend is a criminal investigator with the IRS. And they love to hunt pilots. We are seen as one of the largest tax evading groups in the country.

Milehighrabbi 10-27-2011 05:31 AM


Originally Posted by FlyingViking (Post 1075666)
And everything else is a business expense.

Not true. I've been audited twice in my career. I learned this the hard way and it took me many years to pay back the IRS (back taxes, penalties, and interest) :(

After the first audit, I started using a tax preparer who specialized in airline employees. Second audit went off without a hitch. :)

Be very careful here.


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