Brinary01

That contract from the outside, already looks better than most reagionals, as a CA I get paid barley more than an FO there to fly what equates to their largest airplane, still pasicly do my own flight planning, and I am on reserve. Maybe this is a grass is greener view, I have flown Charter, but not with a contract. One thing I will say for sure. a bad contract is better than no contract. How do you think the reduction in pilots will affect upgrade will it move back or forward?

Brinary01

Unless FSI has a special NJA course that includes a bunch of extra stuff, I have passed 4 of those with no problem, when I jumped over to 121, I was hanging on by the skin of my teeth, though I did it in the minimum number of Sims, that was 2 more than the FSI courses, and almost everyone did 2-4 more sims.

Guard

I think working 5 months a year for $100K first year (which is what I am taking home, about 8K a month now) for two weeks of work is pretty good deal when you throw in free health care and all the free meals and per diem. As I have said the airline in and out to work is worth every dollar. MY buddy makes $160 a year at American bt he works 14 days this month on reserve with a 4 day at the end of the month, reserve sucks at a 121, phone gives you a heart attack every time it rings!

Fredturbo

And yet, not a single person has left the majors the past 5 years to come to frax. How many have gone the other way? A few? Why is that? Is the pay/qol so good?

MWilliams

My opinion, management will try to reduce the number of pilots per airplane and will find out that won’t work and then the scramble to hire more will start.

As for upgrades, the average age of a NetJets pilot is 56. Most pilots will retire or medical out around 65. NetJets did not hire any pilots between 08/08 and 01/15. Upgrade times will be coming down, how low does it go is anyone’s guess.

wankel7

It isn't free health care. You make less to pay for it.

HandyHansell

NJA can not compare to a major. No way, no how not a chance. It’s not designed to compete with a major. A lot of guys who have given up on regional life and the want to get to a major enjoy NJA. The fact of the matter is that compared to a regional NJA is a nice life. Sure the trips are longer, no schedule flexibility to shake a stick at and long upgrades BUT no commuting on your own dime and pretty good benies compared to the Mesa of the worlds. Now there is not an honest person around who can say NJA is better than a UAL or DAL, not an honest person. It’s just not a comparison.

Now the poster who likes to say he works half the year and makes 100K. I would counter that year one at any place sucks but year 12 FO? That’s making 135K or so working 7/7 with all the add ons while at a major you are making 210K or so as a 787 third pilot. Throw in the DC contributions and you sacrificed a lot over a 20 year career. Just not comparable.

Now if you are stuck at a regional for some reason and you are done chasing the ring, feel free to come over. Just be sure you know what you got into as while there is some attrition the pilot group is not that old and with no retirement age they stay to age 80 sometimes you will not move up the lost for a LONG time.

OhSnapAF

If you like it and it works for you, that’s awesome. I would take living in base on reserve any day of the week over working at NJA. The phone ringing on reserve pales in comparison to the 20 waypoint updates per day IMHO. Reserve isn’t fun though, being a line holder is much nicer. 100k might be possible the first year, but in 7 years from now you’ll be making 130k. If you’re cool with that, more power to you. NJA isn’t for everyone but it works for some.

Please don’t say that it’s free healthcare. You make a considerable amount of money less than you should for that healthcare. I pay 3,700 a year for my family and the coverage is better and I will make probably 70k more than the same YOS NJA Pilot this year. Your healthcare isn’t free I promise you.

Finny McCool

Where I am now at my base reserve goes senior, a junior pilot can't hold it.

NJA is reserve on steroids for life. You never get off of reserve at NJA, you can't bid pass, and once assigned a trip you are still on reserve from minute to minute. It gets really old. Know what you're getting into if coming from a sched.

Finny McCool

Which regional did you work for?