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Originally Posted by Guard
(Post 2868269)
They also have had a pretty significant fail rate in initial training. One reason I came here over a major was I know my schedule for 4 months at a time and airline to your starting point and home. You can make a lot more money at a major but I like working 5 1/2 months first year on track to make $95-100K. Its not for everyone though. I would say FDP has added a third pay check every month. Fatti Latti is busy though, got 8 hours of flying today of FDP. If you need to know where your going to be every night don't come here, I've been from Baham overnight to Jackson Hole this las tour.
The pay is good, yes. The benefits are very good, yes. BUT YOU WORK THE WHOLE YEAR. Would I leave? Yes, for SWA: very short time commuting as junior bases are all places I can deal with or live in. But not for UAL or DAL: Both involve long periods in baaaaaad bases commuting. At NutJets I enjoy the seniority I have, even as a junior PIC. There are things I like and things I don't like but that's just how any job is. But I am fully aware of reality that we all work every month except for the few guys who know how to "work things" with changing schedules and vacation bidding. "Work things" means being smart, flexible and patient enough to sit down and do the math to figure out how to use the CBA---IOW legal and agreed by the company---methods to get the most drip from the turnip. Just like Scheds does every day. Its not "gaming the system", its being smart. |
You literally took that literally when I think it’s quite clear what he/she meant.
And you’re right, I have NEVER worked 5.5 months...usually about 4.5 (vacation, PTO, Sick days)
Originally Posted by tm602
(Post 2869653)
Please excuse my terseness, but let's cut the "I only work 5 1/2 months" and make $100K crap! You do NOT work 5 1/2 months. Nobody does. When you work January through May and are DONE for the year, you then and only then work 5 1/2 months. Just because you get a 7/7 schedule and vacations does NOT mean you do not work each month.
The pay is good, yes. The benefits are very good, yes. BUT YOU WORK THE WHOLE YEAR. Would I leave? Yes, for SWA: very short time commuting as junior bases are all places I can deal with or live in. But not for UAL or DAL: Both involve long periods in baaaaaad bases commuting. At NutJets I enjoy the seniority I have, even as a junior PIC. There are things I like and things I don't like but that's just how any job is. But I am fully aware of reality that we all work every month except for the few guys who know how to "work things" with changing schedules and vacation bidding. "Work things" means being smart, flexible and patient enough to sit down and do the math to figure out how to use the CBA---IOW legal and agreed by the company---methods to get the most drip from the turnip. Just like Scheds does every day. Its not "gaming the system", its being smart. |
Originally Posted by tm602
(Post 2869653)
Please excuse my terseness, but let's cut the "I only work 5 1/2 months" and make $100K crap! You do NOT work 5 1/2 months. Nobody does. When you work January through May and are DONE for the year, you then and only then work 5 1/2 months. Just because you get a 7/7 schedule and vacations does NOT mean you do not work each month.
The pay is good, yes. The benefits are very good, yes. BUT YOU WORK THE WHOLE YEAR. Would I leave? Yes, for SWA: very short time commuting as junior bases are all places I can deal with or live in. But not for UAL or DAL: Both involve long periods in baaaaaad bases commuting. At NutJets I enjoy the seniority I have, even as a junior PIC. There are things I like and things I don't like but that's just how any job is. But I am fully aware of reality that we all work every month except for the few guys who know how to "work things" with changing schedules and vacation bidding. "Work things" means being smart, flexible and patient enough to sit down and do the math to figure out how to use the CBA---IOW legal and agreed by the company---methods to get the most drip from the turnip. Just like Scheds does every day. Its not "gaming the system", its being smart. |
Originally Posted by tm602
(Post 2869653)
Please excuse my terseness, but let's cut the "I only work 5 1/2 months" and make $100K crap! You do NOT work 5 1/2 months. Nobody does. When you work January through May and are DONE for the year, you then and only then work 5 1/2 months. Just because you get a 7/7 schedule and vacations does NOT mean you do not work each month.
The pay is good, yes. The benefits are very good, yes. BUT YOU WORK THE WHOLE YEAR. Would I leave? Yes, for SWA: very short time commuting as junior bases are all places I can deal with or live in. But not for UAL or DAL: Both involve long periods in baaaaaad bases commuting. At NutJets I enjoy the seniority I have, even as a junior PIC. There are things I like and things I don't like but that's just how any job is. But I am fully aware of reality that we all work every month except for the few guys who know how to "work things" with changing schedules and vacation bidding. "Work things" means being smart, flexible and patient enough to sit down and do the math to figure out how to use the CBA---IOW legal and agreed by the company---methods to get the most drip from the turnip. Just like Scheds does every day. Its not "gaming the system", its being smart. |
Originally Posted by OtherGuy
(Post 2869843)
You literally took that literally when I think it’s quite clear what he/she meant.
And you’re right, I have NEVER worked 5.5 months...usually about 4.5 (vacation, PTO, Sick days) |
Originally Posted by OhSnapAF
(Post 2869868)
I am not sure why Guard keeps saying that like it's impressive. You can work the same amount of days at any airline. If he actually ever worked at a major he would know that.
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Originally Posted by Guard
(Post 2873407)
Majors are for the brainless, glorified bus drivers, I would definitely take the $$$$ but Im not getting up anymore at 0300 to drive to DCA to avoid traffic and I got a life for 15 days a month. Don't ,miss flinching every time my phone range on reserve. your one miserable guy for being such a happy major pilot!
Anyway my point is you do you and not worry about what others do. Just don’t conflate the facts to fit a false narrative you have... |
You both need to chill , the guys crowing about how great it is on BOTH sides, need to realize what works best for one, may not work for the other, if you are happy in your work , God bless, if not move on, the hiring continues.cheers .
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Originally Posted by 727C47
(Post 2873633)
You both need to chill , the guys crowing about how great it is on BOTH sides, need to realize what works best for one, may not work for the other, if you are happy in your work , God bless, if not move on, the hiring continues.cheers .
Things I miss about NetJets. * my friends/co workers. Still talk to many of them every week. * training at FlightSafety * crew food. Those salmon salads were GOOD * Going to/from plane via an FBO * hotel lounge access / points Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
Originally Posted by G550Guy
(Post 2873699)
Things I miss about NetJets.
* my friends/co workers. Still talk to many of them every week. * training at FlightSafety * crew food. Those salmon salads were GOOD * Going to/from plane via an FBO * hotel lounge access / points Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk But salmon? Oooof, gives me the willies.... |
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