727C47

actually they aren’t , a few have been let go, it’s sad, but it happens. Guard I don’t know you, I know of you, does it serve you well to haunt these threads forever after your departure? Fair winds to you, I wish you well , but brother it may be healthier for you in the long run to let it go. Cheers.

Shenzi105

Very wise words.

hawkerpilot05

Fake news.

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shrsailplanes

NetJets has a union representing the pilot group correct? I see comments like this all the time where pilots get abused and beaten at NetJets only to get fired when they collapse from exhaustion. So, what purpose does the union serve??? A small amount of critical thinking would make anyone suspect of posts like that.

727C47

exactly .....,,,,....

StandardBrief

I know many people at NetJets who are doing just fine. You got fired cause you messed up. You got fired from your previous gig too. I'm excited to see where you get let go from next. If you're going to spit fire, lay out all the facts.

MinRest

The union cannot save you during probation (just like every union aviation job). From a pilot advocate standpoint, NJASAP is very good. They are there to help and protect you as needed and I think they do a good job in that regard. Just like any union job, it takes a long time to get rid of a problem child so if the company can dump you during probation because they think you are going to be a butthead for the next 40+ years there, they will get rid of you while it is easy.

BTW to answer your question about what purpose a union serves, it is to be the voice in negotiations for the pilot group. They fight for what the pilot group voices for during negotiations, and they are the open line of communication (hopefully) 247/365 between the pilot group and management. From a work rule, QOL, pay, contract etc. standpoint I think NJASAP fell way short with both the 2015 CBA and the IBI last year or year before. That being said, I think it had a 75% or higher approval rating so the union obviously represented the majority of the pilot groups wishes, which is what they're supposed to do.

shrsailplanes

be that as it may, a pilot on probation is still subject to the same work rules and protections as a 30 year pilot. Yes? So, this idea that somehow the first year is boot camp where you get the crap beat out of you and then fired before your probation is up doesn’t make a lot of sense.

MinRest

I dont think anyone ever said that.

In fact the long time NJA pilots arguing for new hires to never call in sick or call in fatigued would lend its self to the idea that the company will come after you if you if you do and possibly fire you during probation.

A probationary pilot is expected to adhere to the policies and procedures like any pilot. However, “at will” employment gives the company the right to fire you for any reason what so ever and the union will have little to no involvement. There is no pilot review board and there is no appeal process.

shrsailplanes

I see posts all over that you get min rested days on end and then when you call in fatigued you get fired. Either Netjets is a hell-hole to work for despite the union or something is up with the stories that get posted on here.

I work for a company with no union at all and I get treated great. No complaints. So, these stories must be stretching reality I would think.