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Old 01-26-2021, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by wankel7 View Post
The seniority list is over 75 percent PICs.
Why the long upgrade times? From what I’m hearing, it doesn’t matter if the whole pilot population were captains.
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Old 01-26-2021, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by shrsailplanes View Post
Why the long upgrade times? From what I’m hearing, it doesn’t matter if the whole pilot population were captains.
Most likely the same thing I was saying - coverage. PIC type ratings and currency and salaries are more expensive than SIC ones, so if they have decent crew pairing / coverage, there's no need to upgrade anyone, much less hire anyone new.

a few years ago in my operation, we were begging people to stay and upgrade. a lot of the younger crowd would join as SICs, get their 1500 hours and go to a regional. A lot are trying to come back now...

Another perspective from the fractional world (your operation may vary) is that I'm typed in either seat in our jet, and qualified in either seat of our turboprop. So, on any given cycle I can be in 4 seats on 2 planes. it's rare, but it has happened...fortunately not all on the same day!
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Old 01-26-2021, 10:18 AM
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I wanted to join netjets before Covid hit. Many months before. Now, they might as well flush my app, because I can’t stick it out anymore in the right seat of an RJ on reduced hours. It’s a sad flippin’ day I gotta tell ya.
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Old 01-26-2021, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by shrsailplanes View Post
Why the long upgrade times? From what I’m hearing, it doesn’t matter if the whole pilot population were captains.
If the company wanted to foot the bill to do that, they would. They guaranteed upgrades in the IBB to guarantee yes votes. Good move by the company. Now they gotta shave off a bunch of captains to ever see an organic upgrade. Also add that they wanted to reduce the minimum pilots per plane in fleets slated for disposal. The company wouldn't have asked for it if they didn't think they could utilize it.
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Old 01-26-2021, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by shrsailplanes View Post
Why the long upgrade times? From what I’m hearing, it doesn’t matter if the whole pilot population were captains.
With the passing of TA2020 it's heading to a nearly all PIC group.
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Old 01-26-2021, 01:40 PM
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Thank you for the responses. I get it now.

captains get paired together on trips. So it makes no difference how many FO’s there are.

The new contract has made it so NetJets won’t need to hire for the foreseeable future. Only for retirements.

People don’t retire from NetJets until they are too old and weak to fasten their seat belts

Totally clear. I won’t be working at NetJets. I got it.

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Old 01-26-2021, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by shrsailplanes View Post
Thank you for the responses. I get it now.

captains get paired together on trips

NetJets is not hiring for the foreseeable future

People don’t retire from NetJets until they are too old and weak to fasten their seat belts

I get it now. I won’t be working at NetJets. I got it.
C'mon now. We ain't the only game in town. Not even the best game in town.

Keep at it and best of luck.

Although you're absolutely correct about the old and weak....saddest part of the entire gig.
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Old 01-26-2021, 02:01 PM
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C'mon now. We ain't the only game in town. Not even the best game in town.

Keep at it and best of luck.

Although you're absolutely correct about the old and weak....saddest part of the entire gig.
For many it’s a complete mystery, but the whole reason I left my previous career and went to the regionals for a 70% pay cut was to qualify to apply at NetJets. It’s where I’ve always wanted to work since I saw the QS on the tails. So, now I’m in the right seat at a regional with a 10 year upgrade and no future. I’ve got a lot of soul searching to do.
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Old 01-26-2021, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by shrsailplanes View Post
For many it’s a complete mystery, but the whole reason I left my previous career and went to the regionals for a 70% pay cut was to qualify to apply at NetJets. It’s where I’ve always wanted to work since I saw the QS on the tails. So, now I’m in the right seat at a regional with a 10 year upgrade and no future. I’ve got a lot of soul searching to do.
will then keep at, it’s not like NetJets is never hiring again. Still some CJO’s they have to get in class at some point.
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Old 01-26-2021, 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by shrsailplanes View Post
For many it’s a complete mystery, but the whole reason I left my previous career and went to the regionals for a 70% pay cut was to qualify to apply at NetJets. It’s where I’ve always wanted to work since I saw the QS on the tails. So, now I’m in the right seat at a regional with a 10 year upgrade and no future. I’ve got a lot of soul searching to do.
You must be new to this career. You can’t put all your hope into one place. That’s a sure way for disappointment. I’m glad you have an interview with the place you want to work, but there still is no guarantee you will get hired. Then what?

In this career, you need a plan A, B, and C. For many, plan A will never work out. I still wouldn’t lose all hope. All places go through hiring and non hiring waves. They will hire again. Hopefully soon. Also, those ten year upgrades will come down. It’s stagnant now, but there still are a ton of retirements at the top 121 ladder. That will have to create movement. If not, the whole airline industry is toast.
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