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chase 03-16-2021 12:38 PM

Is Contract Flying Permitted by NJ: Yes or No
 
Question for my Netjet professionals, do your policies allow your pilots to pick up contract gigs on the side? I know it can be done on the slide but do you have any internal policies that state doing so is prohibitive by the company?

If so, is it related to ARG/WVYN requirements or just a company policy? Thanks in advance for your respectful reply. Cheers and fly safe.

Jkmsr 03-16-2021 01:56 PM

I believe so, I think they give us a waiver for it or something. Maybe someone with better knowledge can chime in though.

chase 03-16-2021 04:16 PM


Originally Posted by Jkmsr (Post 3207865)
I believe so, I think they give us a waiver for it or something. Maybe someone with better knowledge can chime in though.

Thanks..when you say "they", is that NJ or the Wyvern folks? Will wait for those more knowledgeable to reply but thanks for kicking the discussion off.

GeeWizDriver 03-16-2021 04:59 PM


Originally Posted by chase (Post 3207832)
Question for my Netjet professionals, do your policies allow your pilots to pick up contract gigs on the side? I know it can be done on the slide but do you have any internal policies that state doing so is prohibitive by the company?

If so, is it related to ARG/WVYN requirements or just a company policy? Thanks in advance for your respectful reply. Cheers and fly safe.

You can fly contract on the side. In order to do so, you must submit an email to Labor Relations indicating the name of the operator and the nature of the flight operation. You may NOT fly under Part 135 and the operator cannot be a competitor to nor customer of Netjets or EJM.

Once you have your authorization in hand, you have to report any flight time by the 5th of the following month and you cannot fly on the day prior to reporting for duty.

ASACapt 03-16-2021 05:09 PM

I used to do a lot of contract flying with the company’s approval until 2018. You’ll find that it’s just not as lucrative to do contract anymore because our pilots are paid well enough that we should not have to contract. It’s nice to be paid very well and enjoy my days off.

It’s also not really as lucrative because you have to report the contract flying to the IRS. Let’s say you made $1000/day. After I paid self employment tax and federal taxes, I brought home about $650 without any protections.

I could work an extended day at NetJets, especially while I’m above my minimum of 10.0 and make an additional $148/hour. I have more 401k match and union protections such as as an industry leading no jeopardy fatigue policy. You’ll find that it’s much easier and beneficial to just work NetJets and enjoy your time off.


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GeeWizDriver 03-16-2021 08:26 PM


Originally Posted by ASACapt (Post 3207931)
I used to do a lot of contract flying with the company’s approval until 2018. You’ll find that it’s just not as lucrative to do contract anymore because our pilots are paid well enough that we should not have to contract. It’s nice to be paid very well and enjoy my days off.

It’s also not really as lucrative because you have to report the contract flying to the IRS. Let’s say you made $1000/day. After I paid self employment tax and federal taxes, I brought home about $650 without any protections.

I could work an extended day at NetJets, especially while I’m above my minimum of 10.0 and make an additional $148/hour. I have more 401k match and union protections such as as an industry leading no jeopardy fatigue policy. You’ll find that it’s much easier and beneficial to just work NetJets and enjoy your time off.


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I also used to do a lot of contract flying. These days, I only do the occasional trip for a Part 91 owner that I have contracted for going back to the early 90's on three different jets that I just happened to be typed in. Mostly because he's a great guy, the trips are fun, and the Chief Pilot has been one of my best friends since 1989. My stomach usually hurts by the end of the trip from laughing so much (He's a wannabe stand-up comedian).

ASA points out, correctly, that contracting no longer has the same economic allure but it is an option if you want to meet the conditions.

chase 03-17-2021 05:52 AM

Thanks for the quick reply folks...appreciate the intel. Nice perk to have if you wiah to exercise it.

ASACapt 03-17-2021 08:06 PM


Originally Posted by chase (Post 3208101)
Thanks for the quick reply folks...appreciate the intel. Nice perk to have if you wiah to exercise it.


Yes it is. But you have to be approved by the company first. That is key. If you’re hired, you’re on probation for 12 months and can be terminated at will. You may easily find like most of us that you don’t need to fly contract anymore.

I saw you posted the same question to Flex. They don’t have a union and they have a completely different pay scale. If contract flying is more important to you, then Flex may be a better option to you. Our union has fought really hard to become the highest paying fractional provider out there. The APC pay scale fir NetJets doesn’t take into account the soft money you can receive.

The Wyvern/Argus audits shouldn’t be a factor for 91 contract flying. Those are 135 audits. Some management companies use them but it’s not required for straight 91. I’ve contracted for a lot of management companies and have always been able to navigate through them for 91 flying.


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