NJ for Families in 21 and Beyond
#41
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2008
Posts: 206
So, I Love the predictability of the 7/7. So does my wife (who also works). It helps us set up day care/ baby sitting when I'm gone. I also Love not commuting. I had an "easy" commute at the regionals but I was constatly fighting mainline guys and having to school them on their own contract and commuting rights. It was stressful and unpleasant. Not having to commute has relieved A LOT of stress in my life.
Yes, you will make more at the airlines. But the money isn't bad at NJA and there is a lot of potential for soft money. (don't look at base salaries on this site.. they are way off from reality...but still probably not as good as legacy).
you will find a groove at the airlines... knowing a typical schedule. but I've talked to a few buddies at United, Delta, and Southwest recently, asking about their life.. they arne't seeing holidays off. Getting about 12-14 days off a month (after 5 years).... so take commuting into factor. loose a day or two here or there.
I'm not sure about legacy. But when I worked at a regional we somtimes had 1 or two days off between trips. Those days are WORTHLESS to a commuter. Might as well be at work.
With all that said. I am actively updating my apps at the legacies just for the hell of it. Money is money after all. And airline flying is easier. But NJA is a good place to work. And if I never get a call from a legacy, I'm pretty damn happy where I'm at.
-5-7 year F.O.
Yes, you will make more at the airlines. But the money isn't bad at NJA and there is a lot of potential for soft money. (don't look at base salaries on this site.. they are way off from reality...but still probably not as good as legacy).
you will find a groove at the airlines... knowing a typical schedule. but I've talked to a few buddies at United, Delta, and Southwest recently, asking about their life.. they arne't seeing holidays off. Getting about 12-14 days off a month (after 5 years).... so take commuting into factor. loose a day or two here or there.
I'm not sure about legacy. But when I worked at a regional we somtimes had 1 or two days off between trips. Those days are WORTHLESS to a commuter. Might as well be at work.
With all that said. I am actively updating my apps at the legacies just for the hell of it. Money is money after all. And airline flying is easier. But NJA is a good place to work. And if I never get a call from a legacy, I'm pretty damn happy where I'm at.
-5-7 year F.O.
#42
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2008
Posts: 206
So, I Love the predictability of the 7/7. So does my wife (who also works). It helps us set up day care/ baby sitting when I'm gone. I also Love not commuting. I had an "easy" commute at the regionals but I was constatly fighting mainline guys and having to school them on their own contract and commuting rights. It was stressful and unpleasant. Not having to commute has relieved A LOT of stress in my life.
Yes, you will make more at the airlines. But the money isn't bad at NJA and there is a lot of potential for soft money. (don't look at base salaries on this site.. they are way off from reality...but still probably not as good as legacy).
you will find a groove at the airlines... knowing a typical schedule. but I've talked to a few buddies at United, Delta, and Southwest recently, asking about their life.. they arne't seeing holidays off. Getting about 12-14 days off a month (after 5 years).... so take commuting into factor. loose a day or two here or there.
I'm not sure about legacy. But when I worked at a regional we somtimes had 1 or two days off between trips. Those days are WORTHLESS to a commuter. Might as well be at work.
With all that said. I am actively updating my apps at the legacies just for the hell of it. Money is money after all. And airline flying is easier. But NJA is a good place to work. And if I never get a call from a legacy, I'm pretty damn happy where I'm at.
-5-7 year F.O.
Yes, you will make more at the airlines. But the money isn't bad at NJA and there is a lot of potential for soft money. (don't look at base salaries on this site.. they are way off from reality...but still probably not as good as legacy).
you will find a groove at the airlines... knowing a typical schedule. but I've talked to a few buddies at United, Delta, and Southwest recently, asking about their life.. they arne't seeing holidays off. Getting about 12-14 days off a month (after 5 years).... so take commuting into factor. loose a day or two here or there.
I'm not sure about legacy. But when I worked at a regional we somtimes had 1 or two days off between trips. Those days are WORTHLESS to a commuter. Might as well be at work.
With all that said. I am actively updating my apps at the legacies just for the hell of it. Money is money after all. And airline flying is easier. But NJA is a good place to work. And if I never get a call from a legacy, I'm pretty damn happy where I'm at.
-5-7 year F.O.
#43
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2017
Position: Retired NJA & AA
Posts: 1,907
But on the plus side, there's no commuting, they have great no cost medical insurance, and the flying is a lot more interesting. A ten year NJA pilot on the 7&7 schedule gets 21 days in a row off 4 times a year. And also on the 7&7 you can make plans months out since you know your work schedule. I declined recall to USAirways because I liked NetJets so much better.
#44
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2021
Posts: 199
Pluses and minuses in the entire business.
#46
#47
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2021
Posts: 199
I’d imagine you’d like to cherry pick some other year then. Specifically, other years of business I wasn’t referring to with better earnings for airlines.
NetJets 2020 saw 3 months of slower flying. No pilots were forced to take LOA or a pay cut. FDP fell off and then hammered back as demand resurged, surpassing our all time busy periods.
We are currently 20% busier than 2019. 2020 was what someone told me it would be… “a bump in the road”.
It was absolutely refreshing to see that NetJets didn’t take one penny of tax payer money to stay afloat in 2020. No major airline (and some fractionals) could claim that.
2020: A very eye opening year for all of aviation.
#50
Speed, Power, Accuracy
Joined APC: Sep 2007
Position: PIC
Posts: 1,693
The union is mulling survey data on whether to change the 33% number. Any change would be subject to a ratification vote.