NJ for Families in 21 and Beyond
 

Hey everyone,

Happy to see things picking up.

Does anyone have any insight on what life is like at Netjets (7/7, 60, or 52) for family life currently and what it may be like in the future? I’m considering making the jump (currently 121 regional) and would just like some info on how the schedules affect families. I have 3 kids - 4, 2, and 3 months. My wife works, too. I think the predictability of the 7/7 would be great, but 7 days away also seems like a lot. Though I’m sure it’s not worse than reserve at a regional.

Oh, and before it’s asked, I’m not gunning for a major airline job because my family and I don’t want to move. We’re happy where we are with extended family pretty close. I know that if I went to a major, I’d likely be commuting to reserve. No thanks.

TIA for any insights, y’all!

I looked at nja when I retired. I am now at a major and commute. Hands down: it is a no brainer to be at a major. I am at American and can make the vast majority of my kids events vs missing half at nja.

Their most junior CA is an ‘06 hire. Take a long hard look at those FO pay scales, because you’re gonna be on them until your 3 month old is in high school.

My first year at a major sucked, but I still had Christmas off and made 80% of my kids’ events. Have averaged 18-20 days off since, haven’t missed a SINGLE event or holiday, and I’ll make a LOT more money doing so over the life of my career. Plus, you’ll work a lot less hard at a major.

NJ for Families in 21 and Beyond
 

You won’t hold the 52 for quite some time. It’s a senior schedule and only awarded to a minimum of senior 10% that bid it. Seniority moves slower than molasses at NJ and it will take you several years to hold the 52.

You can get the 7/7 after training. Can’t remember if you can get it before IOE or the completion of IOE. The company likes long trips. The smallest stretch of days that you can bid to work are the CC72 5 days trips. You can only bid 5 day trips from a “green base”. (HOU,IAH,DAL,IAD,etc), if you do 5 day trips, plan on 5 on/3 Off all month

You may be able to hold CC60, 5 day trips. That schedule from what I understand has gone very junior. I don’t know how junior. The money is made in the 7 day trips.

7 days is a long time but it usually goes by fast. The 7 days off at home and the predictability is nice. It used to be your first and last day are usually travel days. That’s no longer the case since March. Ive been flying my first and last day. We need pilots. No doubt about that.

The guys talking about going to a major have very valid points a d hopefully you look at every option before coming to NetJets. It’s a great company, but you do work and commonly have 11-12 hour days. It’s just the way the “schedule” works.


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Thanks for the info. I really appreciate it.

I’m not afraid of hard work. Long days don’t scare me. The ONLY thing that scares me about NJ is the 7 days away. That’s it. Money is cool, but I’m about QOL and predictability. I just don’t know that I’ll get both of those fairly quickly with a major. I don’t want to spend 6 years getting to a base that I want just to have missed my kids growing up.

Your ability to manipulate your schedule at NJA will never come close to a major airline schedule, ever. That being said, some people love the predictability of 7/7, and you have a little bit of control on the CC schedules, but just a little bitt. A thing to keep in mind, even if you add commuting to a major airline job, you can pull off working less days per month or very close to the same days per month on the 7/7, maybe a day or two more per month, but absolutely less than the 18 day/CC76 schedule.

I get not wanting to commute to reserve, but think some short term sacrifices for long term gains. First year at a major, especially if you have to commute on reserve, will suck more than the first year at NJA, but NJA won't get drastically better beyond that. Your ability to manipulate your schedule, reduce your days worked and increase your credit per month will continue to increase at a major.

Not trying to sell going to a major to you, you're at an airline so I am sure you know people at majors and know the deal, but from somebody who left NJA to go to a major, I couldn't be happier with the QOL increase, the money increase, the drastic reduction in daily BS, and the ability to basically pick which days I want off. Even my first year ( I was on reserve for 2 months) once I was a line holder, if I needed a day off I was able to make it happen.

I had a 2 year old when I started at NJA, and had my youngest daughter while at NJA. I remember vividly, the amount of times I was flying with a captain who was missing something as we flew and it really stuck with me. Having lived both schedules I am super happy with the decision to leave NJA.

Being gone 7 days is a very valid concern. I’m just going to be ho eat tell you that you will work 7 days. The funny thing is I was a reserve regional PIC when Delta pulled out of DFW where I was a line holder. I found myself doing a 2 leg commute to reserve in ATL with about 1100 other crew members. It was miserable.

My 4 days on reserve with commuting on my days off on each end sealed the deal for me to go the NetJets. But that was 2006 and were were booming then. I had no idea I’d still be here in 2021.

Things have changed a lot since 2006 such as commuting clauses in airline pilot contracts. But so has the quality of life and pilot contracts at NJ. The money and QOL for me is great. I’m on the 7/7. Overall, I am happy I stayed, but I’m making a decision as a 2006 hire, not a 2021 hire.

They all have their pros and cons. Seeing how NetJets did financially without any Govt assistance sealed the deal for me. Not one airline would’ve survived without a bailout while NJ never took a dime. Just ask MinRest how he’s enjoying his Govt subsidized vacation. Might as well be on welfare too.


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I would add that there are ways to get off work such as an unpaid LOA but the company is not a fan of this. A few years ago we had a pilot on probation, that due to young children, he had to take time off multiple times. At the end of his probation, the company decided to either let him go or continue his probation another year. Right or wrong, that first year on probationary they are watching you and if they feel you are not a good fit, will terminate you. So much so that the union advises that the PIC should call in fatigue only and never let a SIC make the call if on probation. As we have very rigid schedules and because you are a new hire with no PTO days at first, it is very hard to get time off.

The positive with a PTO bank is that it is now very easy to take PTO as most pilots want to work holidays because of the pay. I just did a PTO over the 4th of July weekend. The company opened up PTO as it was easier to do this then to have pilots call in sick.

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7/7 is just that, for the most part anyway. 7 on is longer than you will find at an airline, but coming home every time knowing you have 7 days off ahead of you is a good feeling. If most of the things you like to do at home are things that you can schedule, then you'll be able to use the predictability of the 7/7 to make long-term plans. If these events are scheduled outside of your control, then they either line up with you 7/7 line or they don't. If they don't, then you can request a tour slide and/or PTO days to accomodate. Sometimes it works, sometimes not.

On the other hand, the CC60 schedule is less predictable in that you are bidding monthly for the days off you want. You will not be able to construct your entire month's line, however, bidding reasonably for the days off you want will often get you what you need. Again, tour slides and PTOs are available for making adjustments later.

Personally, I prefer the CC schedules. I like bidding for days off each month and I almost always get what I ask for. I do not bid short tours - more days flying when you are past the 10 hours will significantly affect your pay. A six-hour transcon will add nearly 900 dollars above your daily rate for the day, and I like to avail myself to those opportunities.

I have no children (given the state of the world, I am thankful for that) so my perspective may be a little different. Nevertheless, I happen to enjoy the 7-7 for lots of reasons:

1 Predictability. It would drive me nuts to not know my schedule until the 15th of the previous month.

2. 7 days off at a stretch. It's amazing how much you can get done at home with 8 nights and 7 days at home twice a month.

3. Long vacations. Every vacation drops a tour between two weeks of regular time off for 21 straight days away from the job. I usually bid consecutive vacations every year for 35 straight days to go on long, international trips. Hard to do that at most airlines.

4. 7 days on the road really isn't that bad. 6 nights if you think about it. And when the schedule is this busy, it goes by quickly and the extra money through FDP is plentiful these days.

5. With PTO and tour slides, you can manipulate schedules enough to be home for the really important stuff.

I'm no NJ cheerleader but, in my view, the schedule is the best thing about the gig. JMHO

Best thing I ever did for my family life was leave NJ for a major. I just started 4th year and the ability to manipulate my scheule to be home when I want is irreplaceable.

Living in an out of the way place and not commuting is a valid reason for going and staying at nj but nearly all the people I know who’ve left said it was a no brainer. Too each his own. Just my .02

I live in a major city hub. It just happens to be one of (if not the most) senior bases at the major airline that I’d consider. So I’d probably be a one leg commute to most other bases. But, it’s still a commute.

Being 4 years in, how many days off a month are you averaging? And are you at your desired domicile?

If it is a senior base at the airline you would consider, at least you would be commuting on company.

I also hit 4 years in at my airline, and I work typically 12 days a month. Even my first year I was working 14 days and getting above min credit. This is going to be very airline specific though.

What airline are you talking about, and what base? What DOH is the plug at your desired base?

Based in LA and commute from San Diego. LA is our junior base now which certainly helps my relative seniority in base but this month I’m tues-Thur pm trips. I am 16 days off for the month with 111 trips when the award came out. . I picked up a premium two day that paid me 24 trips this past weekend that had me home by 4pm the second day. Grand total 135 and 14 days off. To make that at nj I would be gone far to long for my taste and killing myself in the process. No thanks! Awards just came out for July and I’m a wed-fri start with pm starts.

I enjoyed my time there. I flew with some of the best pilots around and some of the absolute worst who have no business stepping foot near an airplane. All in all I’m thankful for my time and the friends I made there.

AA. CLT. Im not sure about the plug’s DOH.

The number 1 reason I left NJA was because of schedule flexibility. You simply won’t be able to move days around or get certain days, like weekends off, with consistency.

No matter we’re you go. You are going to miss stuff for the first couple of years by being junior. You’re going to have to realize that.

AA has a ton of retirements and will experience rapid movement. COVID struck fear into a lot of pilots concerning layoffs and viability, but it will return with major retirements.

also, don’t discount being able to bid overnights at home. I know some commuters that are home more than in base pilots. Although this most likely won’t be consistent either.

I will see if I can find out. That is worth finding out, as it will give you an idea of how long you have to commute and what your QOL is going to be like if you get hired there. Also, I assume you are at a wholly owned and plan on flowing potentially to AA?

This is a big one. I know several friends who commute from their home, and bid overnights at home. They spent 25 days a month in their own bed.

Thanks for all of the perspectives, everyone. I suppose the question that I have to ask myself is - do I want to be home the most (airlines), or do I want to have the most consistent schedule (NJ)?

That’s not an easy answer. My wife, of course, wants both. But that combination isn’t found in aviation. At least not any flying jobs. I’m sure that no matter which path we choose, we’ll be able to figure it out. I love flying, but my family will always come first.

If you don't want to have to think about how to get to work, NJA is a good fit. You can get hired at NJA, be based in CLT and choose the 7/7. You can essentially become a mindless robot when it comes to how and when you go to work, and when you are home. I mean that in a good way, but that has to be what your priority is in order to see it as a good thing. My priority was making more money and having more time off with the ability to have more flexibility, so NJA didn't fit.

Managing your days off, bidding, trading, dropping, picking up, potentially commuting, reserve etc. takes more time and energy to manage. You already know this as you do it, but at a major you can reap the benefits and if picking your days off, picking stretches of days off. A 25 year captain at NJA has to work the same amount of days as a new hire FO, there is no ability to bid for higher credit trips so you can have more days off. How much extra money you make is completely up to the company, not you.

There is no perfect fit and which ever way you choose, you will be thinking about the other option wondering if it was the better fit lol. I will say if flexibility and days off are your priority, NJA will not be your answer.

You live in CLT? Total no brainer. Go to AA.

on the 7/7 at NJA you will make 100K?? IDK, not even sure they make 100K. Lets say 100K. I can make 100K working at AA, 2 years in, by only working 100 days or less (100 days assuming minimum pay days for 100 days). 100 days/12: 8 days of work to equal the same money you would make at NJA as an FO on the 7/7 being gone 15 days a month. average calender day is 5:15 here, $161 per hour plus 16% 401K is just shy of $1000 ($984 to be exact). That is if your trip is minimum pay. On the other end of the spectrum there are turns that pay 8 plus hours per day. I did a turn the other day that paid $1600.

Anyways, have you ever flown charter, part 135, or corporate? It can suck. Same idiot captain for 7 straight days. Cleaning the plane, hauling bags, sitting at the FBO on standby.

Guys work more at AA because they want to make more but they dont have to. Especially when thinking about jumping to some non 121 gig such as NJA or corporate. Until this pandemic hit I did zero days of reserve. ZERO. Straight to a line in NYC out of training and it will be the same for you. This idea you will on short call reserve for 18 days in NYC for years is BS. Maybe a month or two, maybe. Too many retirements and too much upcoming movement. All the east coast US airway bases have the most retirements upcoming, especially CLT and they are growing CLT.

Here is the other thing for family life. You can call off sick if you need to make an especially important event. Try doing that in the middle of a trip at NJA.

If you are sick at NJA, you push the Sick button on your company iphone and you are taken off your trip.

So mid sequence they send you home?

Correct unless you ask them to leave you in the hotel because you are too sick to travel.

I stand corrected.

Thank you. That’s some great information.

IMO, there’s a big difference between flexibility and predictability. AA offers flexibility, to be sure. But how much of an investment is required to live in your desired base and have a predictable schedule? I’m not against AA. I have do have friends there. But each of them who are recent hires are commuting to reserve. None can hold Charlotte.

Predicability is also a relative term. On the 7/7 I knew my schedule for the next year basically, but the show times, airports, types of duty, airlines, rental cars, ubers, all changed 20 times a day. At my airline, I know my schedule 3 weeks before the month starts, and the changes to it are super rare. I much prefer that lack of stress and find it MORE predictable by leaps and bounds over anything I had at NJA.

If you want to know 6 months from now that you have Tuesday off, but don't mind being dragged around like a piece of meat for 7 days on the road when you do work, NJA will be a good fit. If you don't do well with constant changes and running around for 12 hours a day, for 7 days, then you will burn out at NJA quick.

I commute and its not hard at all

If you are "getting drug around like a piece of meat" at any flying job that is on you.

The key word here is sick. If they catch you faking it to get home for something, you stand a good chance of being disciplined up to and including termination. Also, mid tour sick calls place a huge bulls eye on your back and if repeated may get you an invite to CMH to talk with the Chief Pilot. If you need an event off, PTO days are available but you may have to use them for a full tour which could cost you 6, 7, or 8 days depending on your tour as to PTO a partial tour, you must have at least 4 working days left.

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I'm in CLT and was with USAirways from 1989-2003 then got caught in the big furlough. I wound up at NetJets in 2005 and stayed there, declining recall to USAirways. I went out on medical in 2017 and have stayed out. I did a lot of commuting at USAirways. PIT, DCA, BOS, PHL. PITA. I also held CLT a few times, that was very nice. Even being senior reserve was a great deal since I live 11 miles from the airport.

The other posts have covered most of the differences but I'll throw in a few. One big one is the type of flying you do. At NJA it's usually just 2 pilots and a jet. About 40% of your legs will be empty ferry flights. Great dispatchers and usually good support from the company. You never know where you'll wind up. I was inflight diverted several times to cover a trip that suddenly came open. In winter you don't know whether to pack for MSP or MIA. Even after 12 years at NetJets is was very rare I flew a trip and didn't see a new airport at least once. At AA it'll be like groundhog day. Also some very challenging airports to fly into.

I've had to dig rocks out of a ditch to use for wheel chocks. On the other side I've stayed in a Ritz Carlton Resort for 3 days waiting on MX. Yes, you have to load and arrange the catering, occasionally check the inventory of snacks and beverages and also clean the jet after a pax leg. At least now all the jets with "honey buckets" are gone, all have externally serviced lavs (I think). It's just a totally different flying experience from the airlines. Depending on equipment flown you'll see a lot of uncontrolled fields. I've have some major adventures just getting to/from the jet when I was in small towns.

Some other advantages of NetJets: Fantastic Insurance! My COBRA runs out in November and I'm going to miss that insurance. You pay nothing for it. Office visits are just $20. ER/Hospital is a flat $150. I had Bell's Palsy back in November, the phone nurse thought it might be a stroke so my wife rushed me to the ER. I was admitted to the Hospital for an MRI. Total bill was $150.
Other benefits are a lot of hotel points, airline miles, and rental car points. We did CLT-HNL 1st class and stayed a week at a hotel all on points. Fuel rewards are nice too, but I don't know the latest on those, might not be as good as it once was.

This has been an ongoing debate for years, even amongst our own message board. Like many things in life, the grass isn't necessarily greener, it's just different. It all comes down to what works for you an you're family. NetJets has changed quite a bit and some of the information you're getting isn't entirely accurate. Just for reference I'm a 14 year FO and I passed on my class date with a major about 2 years ago. I was all set to go, but the airline started having issues and it was looking like a long, hard commute. However, I have a good side gig, my wife makes a six figure salary working part time, both of my children are on the autism spectrum, we need every member of our family/village, and for me to get to a base I'm looking at a 2 leg commute or a 2 hour drive plus flight time. And I was never a good commuter when I did it for several years.

If you go to a major you will make more money over your career for several likely have more time off (barring any more disasters, which seem to happen every 10 years). By nature corporate will always be harder, given that everything is your responsibility and they type of flying we do. Yes you do have to clean the plane, but on average I spend 5 minutes every passenger leg (2-3 a day as half of them are ferry legs) straightening up. Sometimes you do get passengers who do a number on the back. You do load bags, on average maybe 3-4 suitcases a passenger leg, except during snowbird season where they will bring the kitchen sink. But if you're not feeling it, tip a line guy to do it. Yes we are expected to tip and do get reimbursed. We also have service hubs across the country. If you're going/coming from one you walk off the plane as is and they stock and clean it for you.

You will work hard most days, at least for now. But I've had plenty of days where I've been on the beach at one Caribbean island before lunch and then another island by the same time then next day. You never know, but now the more you fly the more you make.

The movement here has always been slow, however in the next 3-4 years nearly 20% of the current seniority list will be at or above 65. In the next 7-10 it will be nearly half the list, not accounting for growth which we seem to have a good bit of at the moment. So the upgrade time will steadily come down although you'd still likely be an FO for many years.

There's a variety of schedules but I've always been on the 7/7. It can get long, but I love the predictability. My wife, who would be totally happy for me to be a stay at home dad, can't understand why more companies don't do it. Knowing when I'm home and not depending on a commute is huge for us. I have friends who commute, some don't mind and others hate it. I know the rules have gotten better, but I still run into crew members at the gate who are traveling up half a day early to make an early show. Like everything YMMV.

The big part about 7/7 is the vacation. It's an automatic 21 days off. I line mine up to have every third month off. Granted it does take time to accrue vacation and PTO. Also, on the 7/7 you are not locked to miss half of everything. First you bid as to have as much off as you can. You can change schedules every 4 months if you choose (7/7, 18 day, CC) obviously seniority based. If you need time off you have the option to drop, may or may not happen, you have PTO days that max out at 12 days a year (I go for a 5th week of vacation), you can slide a tour either direction, then do a combo of sliding and PTO days. Remember since you can plan, the times of needing the last minute changes does go down. Also, if you're planning on another child FMLA is awesome. Its 12 WORK weeks off over the year at your choosing. I think I worked 40 days one year when my 2nd was born. Normally though, I work about 18-19 weeks a year using all vacation and PTO.

After a little time you'll likely not pay much for vacations between all the points and miles you build.

The medical is great, the only thing you pay is a $20 copay or $150 for anything major.

The airlines definitely win on retirement, but it is a 58% match plus 33% of your flight pay goes to your 401k. If you max out your 401k each year, you'd be putting $35-40k a year into your retirement.

That's most of the highlights, it has it's pros and cons to the airlines. Many of us are airline refugees who came up during a time that wasn't as good as it is now, but NJ has turned into a good job. Just a piece of advice, do a little research on some of the other NetJets threads. You will find some bitter former employees. I don't blame them, I was there too after many years of a stalled career, not to mention all the other furloughs, flowbacks, and flight department closures I've been through in my career. However when you have pilots that have moved to other companies and still come back to say how good their company and how bad NJ is years after they left, I would call into question how happy the really are. Admittedly I trolled the airline I passed on for a few months to see if I had made the right decision, but eventually I accepted my decision and moved on. Good luck with your decision.

It comes down to what is important for you. Time off, money, not knowing what you are doing day to day vs knowing exactly, your age, so many factors.

Netjets has become a pretty good job. No doubt. I would say the younger you are the “better” future you have at a major. Mid 40’s and older, you may not have enough time to capture the main advantages of a major.

Medical monthly premiums is a big consideration. For example, at Delta, a family of 4 on the top plan is around $700/m 😳. Netjets you pay nothing.

Some people hate commuting, but not all commutes are the same. Living in base, if an option, is an absolute dream. On the flip side, having the company pay you to go to work is a huge benefit.

From someone who has been on the regional side, Netjets and now cargo, it all comes down to preference. There is no right or wrong answer. The job has not changed much at Netjets, what did change was the compensation post 2018, putting it more on par with airlines. 7/7 offers a lot of predictability, and yes, 7 days on the road is a long time, especially in the fleets that get beaten up consistently. The CC72/76 do pay more, but short turn arounds was simply too brutal for me. There are guys at NJ who make $300k a year, but, for the same $300k, for example, a Southwest FO will probably work 25-30% less days in the year and will have the ability to move around his schedule to fit his needs a bit better.

Bottom, NJ is a good job, put on the table all the factors that are important to you, and see it clearly on paper laid out in front of you. Some people like knowing where they are going, others don’t care. The crew meals at NJ are a plus, don’t count on anything good at the airlines. The airline miles and hotels points are great, but they have been so devalued over the years that I personally prefer the pass travel option even with flights being full all the time. Again, no right or wrong answer.

When I left NJ I did bash the job a bit, before IBB 2018 it was a no brainer. Adam Johnson’s leadership has definitely improved relations and morale, although I still think Bobo is a cancer. But while the dynamics of the job has changed very little, the compensation has increased enough to make it attractive. And other little things that may seem small, like the ability to use all your PTO days as PTO, do make a difference.

Some like the airline terminals, some people like FBO’s. Some people like controlling their own transportation to/from Hotel, some people could care less (it was nice one being fully responsible for your own transportation, Van, Uber, Lyft, just get yourself there).

If I had to narrow it down to one thing, I would say schedule flexibility is the number one differentiator for the airlines, followed closely by medical insurance for Netjets.

There is no right or wrong answer. When you retire, then you will know.

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Had not read your entire post. It seems very clear, as you do not want to move, that Fedex is the perfect job for you if cargo is to your liking. Lots of commercial deadheads, doesn’t take a long time to hold them. Combined with a great company, great pay and great benefits.

One thing to consider is that Delta includes there Loss of Medical in their benefits. NetJets does not have this and we currently have it through the union even though it is a benefit renegotiated after so many years as it is only term. There is no mention of ever losing it but it is not guaranteed. A NetJets captain will pay roughly $335 per month out of pocket that you would subtract from the Delta benefits for a more apple to Apple comparison.

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I would add though that we pay for LOM with after tax money, so our payments are tax free. For a captain in the higher tier plan, it pays out 100K/year tax free which is nice.

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I ran out my 3 years of Medical at NJA last year and went on the LOM plan. I wasn't able to upgrade the coverage due to pre-existing conditions so I'm capped at $84K/year. Nothing whatsoever comes out of that monthly deposit. The $300+ a month I paid in premiums was one of the best investments I ever made. It gives me the financial freedom to not have to work. I do mostly volunteer stuff. I could earn up to approx $40K/year without penalty but above that they deduct 84% from my benefit so not worth taking a job that pays more.

Saw that you fell off the list. Hope you are well amigo and I'm with you on the HW LOM plan...

That is good to hear. I would never work for an airline that did not offer this. I do wish our plan was mandated in the CBA but the union has done a good job keeping it so far. I never imagined in my 20's that I could lose my medical and how much it could affect me. For myself, it is insurance worth paying for.

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Thanks. Enjoying a zero stress life and doing some volunteer dog walking which gets me 4 miles per day exercise. When I see how much the contract has changed pay wise since 2017 I feel some mild regret over opting to go out on medical but when I look at my health numbers I'm doing the best I have in 16 years. That would not have happened if I wasn't able to devote 24/7 to it.

So, I Love the predictability of the 7/7. So does my wife (who also works). It helps us set up day care/ baby sitting when I'm gone. I also Love not commuting. I had an "easy" commute at the regionals but I was constatly fighting mainline guys and having to school them on their own contract and commuting rights. It was stressful and unpleasant. Not having to commute has relieved A LOT of stress in my life.

Yes, you will make more at the airlines. But the money isn't bad at NJA and there is a lot of potential for soft money. (don't look at base salaries on this site.. they are way off from reality...but still probably not as good as legacy).

you will find a groove at the airlines... knowing a typical schedule. but I've talked to a few buddies at United, Delta, and Southwest recently, asking about their life.. they arne't seeing holidays off. Getting about 12-14 days off a month (after 5 years).... so take commuting into factor. loose a day or two here or there.

I'm not sure about legacy. But when I worked at a regional we somtimes had 1 or two days off between trips. Those days are WORTHLESS to a commuter. Might as well be at work.

With all that said. I am actively updating my apps at the legacies just for the hell of it. Money is money after all. And airline flying is easier. But NJA is a good place to work. And if I never get a call from a legacy, I'm pretty damn happy where I'm at.

-5-7 year F.O.