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10-13-2022, 12:56 PM

#111

MinRest

Mmmm wine

Joined APC: Feb 2020

Position: A220 FO

Posts: 940

Quote:

Originally Posted by ExecJet99

They don’t have any money. They are spending it on hangers and aircraft and training pilots for no reason when they dump entire fleets. (But that part is a Berkshire shell game)

That is what they have always done. "You pilots keep flying the legs we continuously pile onto your schedule or we can't afford to pay you. Oh also check out this huge NetJets hangar and FBO we just built but just remember, no pilots allowed in the lobby..."

10-13-2022, 02:10 PM

#112

obiden

Line Holder

Joined APC: Sep 2022

Posts: 43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyfalcons

In what world do you think a new contract would be signed that does not move the amendable date back from where it currently sits?

11 years!? gtfo

10-14-2022, 09:49 AM

#113

HeavyD

Gets Weekends Off

Thread Starter

Joined APC: Jun 2019

Posts: 135

The "now is not the time" message the union president posted again today is getting old.

10-14-2022, 10:26 AM

#114

Deserthusker

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Joined APC: Apr 2016

Posts: 236

When are we supposed to see the results of the VED survey?

10-14-2022, 11:28 AM

#115

Taildragger90

New Hire

Joined APC: Sep 2022

Posts: 8

Noticed several people saying FDP is drying up. What do you mean? Not flying enough to get it?

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10-14-2022, 11:30 AM

#116

jtf560

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Joined APC: May 2006

Posts: 1,024

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deserthusker

When are we supposed to see the results of the VED survey?

I believe the survey ended yesterday. I was surprised not to see it in today's Full Throttle union email. They did say the group has now officially swung to an aggressive stance with management and said things will slowly ramp up now. My best guess is that the VED survey went with extending it again vs letting it expire or terminating it early which doesn't go with the message in today's email so they didn't say yet. Hopefully the ramping up doesn't take as long as it took to get the majority to request aggressive. Upper management is probably having some interesting meetings today after their minions revealed the official union stance change.

10-14-2022, 11:35 AM

#117

jtf560

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Posts: 1,024

[QUOTE=Taildragger90;3512544]Noticed several people saying FDP is drying up. What do you mean? Not flying enough to get it?

According to the union, the overall FDP is not really down. Some fleets are just not getting as much anymore while others must be making up for it. The XLS and Sovereign are having more and more mx issues as they age and are now starting to fly a bit less. The Phenom was and maybe is still getting less due to a lot of them being in mx for renewed interiors and scheduled heavy mx. The Lattitude is having some particular mx issues so some are down waiting on parts.

10-14-2022, 11:52 AM

#118

Taildragger90

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Joined APC: Sep 2022

Posts: 8

[QUOTE=jtf560;3512548]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taildragger90

Noticed several people saying FDP is drying up. What do you mean? Not flying enough to get it?

According to the union, the overall FDP is not really down. Some fleets are just not getting as much anymore while others must be making up for it. The XLS and Sovereign are having more and more mx issues as they age and are now starting to fly a bit less. The Phenom was and maybe is still getting less due to a lot of them being in mx for renewed interiors and scheduled heavy mx. The Lattitude is having some particular mx issues so some are down waiting on parts.

Ah okay that makes sense. Thanks for the explanation!

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