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MinRest 11-24-2022 05:18 AM


Originally Posted by HeavyD (Post 3536796)
Our exemplary new hires make 30% less in base pay than a new hire at Mesa, Horizon etc. $90/ hour is basically 100K/year when factoring block vs credit. Soft money is not dependable and another byproduct of the union bailing out the company through an IBI.

I hope the direction of the union changes and you guys get what you want and deserve. Unfortunately the IBIs and company discretion extensions, are going to make it a tough road ahead.

TransWorld 11-24-2022 07:42 AM


Originally Posted by wankel7 (Post 3536823)
Yikes - I didn't realize the gap was that wide. That's gotta hurt recruiting but recruiting isn't the unions job. And the new hire vote isn't what gets new contracts ratified. I really hope the company comes up to the plate in good faith to fix this stuff.

That is based on Today. How does it compare with the amounts a few months ago, before the big jump in the regionals’ pay? Probably much closer.

AirBear 11-24-2022 10:14 AM


Originally Posted by TransWorld (Post 3536969)
That is based on Today. How does it compare with the amounts a few months ago, before the big jump in the regionals’ pay? Probably much closer.

Regional pay was much closer, as were many other part 91K/135 operators. The sudden surge in Regional Pilot wages started by AA in mid-June was matched within a few months by the other regionals. They pretty much had to or start parking even more jets.
I'm sure other 91, 91K, and 135 operators have been hit hard by this escalation in pay. At least the ones who require an ATP or R-ATP anyway. NetJets and other operators are going to have to do something about the pay or face a greatly increased rotation speed of their revolving doors, although NJA has very good benefits and "soft" pay which may help them somewhat.

v1rotatay 11-24-2022 06:07 PM


Originally Posted by TransWorld (Post 3536969)
That is based on Today. How does it compare with the amounts a few months ago, before the big jump in the regionals’ pay? Probably much closer.

I was getting 11 days off working 90 credit hours a month at OO on $57.15/hr as a third year FO.

About $61k gross, minus about $7k for insurance and HSA.

MinRest 11-25-2022 06:42 AM


Originally Posted by v1rotatay (Post 3537166)
I was getting 11 days off working 90 credit hours a month at OO on $57.15/hr as a third year FO.

About $61k gross, minus about $7k for insurance and HSA.

My guess is that regional QOL hasn't increases a whole lot. Maybe with commuter hotels and positive space travel, but I bet day to day work QOL and days off have improved very little. The pay however has gotten insane. Clearly it's not viable long term but the amount a new hire can make now at a regional is seriously crazy.

HeavyD 11-25-2022 11:28 AM


Originally Posted by wankel7 (Post 3536823)
Yikes - I didn't realize the gap was that wide. That's gotta hurt recruiting but recruiting isn't the unions job. And the new hire vote isn't what gets new contracts ratified. I really hope the company comes up to the plate in good faith to fix this stuff.

Well, it looks like we're sending Beavis and Butthead to the negotiating table again. If it doesn't work the first time, surely the fourth time's a charm. One of them has been getting on the MB lately and playing spinmaster regarding the next IBB. The company wants to raise new hire wages but doesn't find a corresponding wage increase to all "palatable".




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GeeWizDriver 11-25-2022 11:56 AM


Originally Posted by HeavyD (Post 3537400)
Well, it looks like we're sending Beavis and Butthead to the negotiating table again. If it doesn't work the first time, surely the fourth time's a charm. One of them has been getting on the MB lately and playing spinmaster regarding the next IBB. The company wants to raise new hire wages but doesn't find a corresponding wage increase to all "palatable".




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All very predictable. And hopefully a resounding NO vote if that actually comes to pass.

tm602 11-25-2022 09:53 PM


Originally Posted by GeeWizDriver (Post 3537407)
All very predictable. And hopefully a resounding NO vote if that actually comes to pass.

The usual will happen. Wave a signing bonus, and claim “there is NO more money available”….and everyone will vote yes.


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