jtf560

A third issue for hiring 700 would be training 700 and all the dominoes that fall with the upgrades and other training churn associated with rapid growth. They have spooled up 2 or 3 other FSIs for training to NetJets footprint, but I can't imagine any FSI having much luck hiring and retaining enough instructors.

GeeWizDriver

Totally agree. Numerous cases of initials waiting days between completion of systems and starting simulator training. Then constantly changing instructors and sim times. Just isn't anywhere near enough training bandwidth.

But I think they're counting on a major recession to fix that issue too.

AirBear

I hadn't even thought about FSI with all the pay raises going on at the Regionals. I bet they are having a tough time unless they've boosted pay quite a bit. Any Sim Instructor who can hold a medical could be a PIC making $150K+/yr at a regional. Of course all those raises just started in mid-June when AA's 3 WO kicked it off with the raise to $90/$150hr.

FDP was the smartest thing NetJets could do. When I had to quit flying in spring 2017 the Mx Controllers probably threw a party and took my photo off their dartboard. Most of what I wrote up I would still have written up under FDP but I might have thought twice about it.

MinRest

FDP was the smartest thing the company could do. It didn't fix scheduling practices nor make the day to day any easier but it did make everyone think twice about fatiguing or potentially writing something up. Sounds like it is too much of a variable fleet wise to be a good accurate measure of what somebody can expect pay wise now though.

I don't think NJA will have a problem getting pilots who have decided to give the company a try in hopes that it will be their career company. But for people like me, I went to NJA to avoid the regionals and the crap pay before going to a major. The days of crap regional pay are over for the foreseeable future. NJA is gonna have to come up with some incentives to steer those considering a regional or NJA. Hiring 700 almost sounds like a sick joke, NJA has never had the capacity to handle that kind of hiring.

I would imagine that anyone with half a brain will be able to see right through these regional pay rates to see that they are exactly that, just pay rates. Then again pilots are obsessed simply with hourly rates and seemingly nothing else lol.

HeavyD

If "now isn't the time" then it never will be. This is as good as its gets from the labor side. We, and the union leadership have to be able to see what is in front of us.

MinRest

The economy tanking doesn't fix the pilot shortage. The industry can constrict significantly and still ill need to hire.

ZebraSpots

Constrict you back to the Right Seat at a small regional “major” airline.

MinRest

Yea no, I have too many below me. Thank you for taking the time from extending and flying 26 days a month so you can pretend to have an airline salary, to come respond though!

Zudd

Bruh, please stop! You're a dork and a troll. Just stop

HeavyD

The Monday management brief seems like it was directed at new-hires. IBI23 and doubling in fleet size.