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Alknew182 02-27-2010 03:06 PM

Commutair Contract
 
I know there is a commutair thread already, but I think this deserves a new one.

Is there any update on contract negations?

Spoilers 02-27-2010 03:26 PM

Are you really willing to give up your seniority number at Comair to go to CommutAir?

JetBlast77 02-27-2010 03:38 PM

Seriously guys I hear things are really not good there. They don't have block or better and fly a lot in and out of EWR. My buddy told me the other day he was doing PHL-EWR and was on the aircraft almost 5 hours and got paid for less than an hour (at $21 an hour second year FO). I have a friend who's been there 3 years and still not upgraded, so there goes your quick upgrade argument. Seriously guys at what point is it no longer worth it? Six days on with one off at less than 20k a year? You could work full time at Mcdonalds and be home a lot more, not to mention make more money. Not hating on CommutAir guys they are a great group, just wondering how far some guys are willing to go for this job......

Spoilers 02-27-2010 03:43 PM


Originally Posted by JetBlast77 (Post 770439)
Seriously guys I hear things are really not good there. They don't have block or better and fly a lot in and out of EWR. My buddy told me the other day he was doing PHL-EWR and was on the aircraft almost 5 hours and got paid for less than an hour (at $21 an hour second year FO). I have a friend who's been there 3 years and still not upgraded, so there goes your quick upgrade argument. Seriously guys at what point is it no longer worth it? Six days on with one off at less than 20k a year? You could work full time at Mcdonalds and be home a lot more, not to mention make more money. Not hating on CommutAir guys they are a great group, just wondering how far some guys are willing to go for this job......

Exactly! That's why I asked Alknew182 if he is really willing to give up his number at OH? I can't verify this, but I have heard CommutAir is having a hard time finding people with the new minimums they set and no furloughed pilot willing to resign their number at their previous carrier.

$21/22/23 for your first 3 years, No Block or Better, No pay for Deadheads and probably reserve in Newark doesn't sound very appealing to me.

And yes, I know they voted in ALPA and working on a contract, blah blah blah just like every other bottom feeder that had quick upgrades and is now struggling with crappy pay and QOL because there is no movement.

flynwmn 02-27-2010 08:51 PM

im not willing to sign the training contract

dashtrash300 02-28-2010 05:52 AM


Originally Posted by flynwmn (Post 770596)
im not willing to sign the training contract

Well 2 years $12,000 is a bit ridiculous...that is worse than Great Lakes. The only good thing is they take $500 off for each month of service.

TBucket 02-28-2010 08:03 AM

No block or better in NEWARK???? Are you freaking kidding me?

JetBlast77 02-28-2010 10:23 AM

i wish we were......

beech_nut 03-01-2010 01:59 PM

Do not come here
 
It is as bad as you have heard. worse.

ERJ135 03-01-2010 06:36 PM

wow, glad i got out....:eek:

dashtrash300 03-02-2010 04:14 AM

Well of course it is bad there....you did not have a contract! Now, you just barely have one and I guarantee you the next one will be better...maybe not as good as Piedmont, ExpressJet, Eagle, etc... but it will definitely be better than your current "contract."

ERJ135 03-02-2010 05:39 AM


Originally Posted by beech_nut (Post 771493)
It is as bad as you have heard. worse.

is H.W. still there?? I remember he was a nice guy

Terrain Terrain 03-02-2010 06:15 AM


Originally Posted by dashtrash300 (Post 771736)
Well of course it is bad there....you did not have a contract! Now, you just barely have one and I guarantee you the next one will be better...maybe not as good as Piedmont, ExpressJet, Eagle, etc... but it will definitely be better than your current "contract."


Epic Fail..

NEDude 03-02-2010 09:31 AM

$12,000 training contract for two years on a Dash 8 at $23/hr for top pay?!

Talk about dooming yourself to a life of poverty.

Guildenstern 03-02-2010 12:29 PM

They have a training contract now? HAH! I scored 144 hrs of turbine off of them over 6 months and just got to walk when they tried to put me on historical block in EWR. That's just obscene, Quitting was the best feedback they could get and now they are taking that away? Loosers, I want them out of my city.

Flyboy060 03-02-2010 12:40 PM


Originally Posted by Guildenstern (Post 771982)
They have a training contract now? HAH! I scored 144 hrs of turbine off of them over 6 months and just got to walk when they tried to put me on historical block in EWR. That's just obscene, Quitting was the best feedback they could get and now they are taking that away? Loosers, I want them out of my city.

And honestly- - we are glad to be rid of you. Don't you have a paper to complain to?

aibal 03-02-2010 01:51 PM


Originally Posted by Flyboy060 (Post 771986)
And honestly- - we are glad to be rid of you. Don't you have a paper to complain to?

Ahh yes..

I remember this guy.. FAA seeks rapid overhaul of rules that govern pilot training and scheduling for regional airlines - cleveland.com

Famous.

Spongebob Greypants Foreva!

dashtrash300 03-02-2010 02:05 PM


Originally Posted by aibal (Post 772015)

HAHA big ears and big hair!! That guy looks like someone I want to go have dinner and a beer with on a layover....NOT!!! :D

dashtrash300 03-02-2010 02:07 PM

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beech_nut 03-02-2010 04:46 PM

Sponge bob grey pants
 

Originally Posted by Guildenstern (Post 771982)
They have a training contract now? HAH! I scored 144 hrs of turbine off of them over 6 months and just got to walk when they tried to put me on historical block in EWR. That's just obscene, Quitting was the best feedback they could get and now they are taking that away? Loosers, I want them out of my city.

Yeah, you really scored. You are the expert after all that experience.

naley70b 03-02-2010 11:37 PM

wait wait....there are people out there that are defending a training contract and the chance to make low 20's an hour in a large T.P.....

Am I wrong in thinking that there is something seriously wrong with this picture?

Not just wrong like "Colgan and Republic are pure evil" wrong, but wrong like "i know this is a bad situation but its all i got" wrong.

naley70b 03-02-2010 11:39 PM

Also, has anyone ever considered how weird of a word wrong is? weird is also a very strange word...

FlyJSH 03-03-2010 07:41 AM


Originally Posted by Guildenstern (Post 771982)
They have a training contract now? HAH! I scored 144 hrs of turbine off of them over 6 months and just got to walk when they tried to put me on historical block in EWR. That's just obscene, Quitting was the best feedback they could get and now they are taking that away? Loosers, I want them out of my city.


Perhaps when you have a little more time you will realize how silly "scored 144 hrs of turbine time" sounds. But I will give you credit: at your pace, you would have flown 288 hours that year, I just can't seem to get under the 300 hour per year mark. :rolleyes:



"They go through the motions, repeat the power points as fast as they can and go home," recalled Zaite, who was hired with just 507 flight hours, 25 hours of it on multiengine aircraft like the twin turboprops at CommutAir.

Inexperience shows up in the cockpit, said a CommutAir captain, who asked not to be identified because he feared repercussions for talking to the press.

"It's very exhausting for me to monitor [co-pilots] because I have my own duties," he said.


Methinks fo Zaite may have come to the game a little early.

Guildenstern 03-05-2010 01:54 PM


Originally Posted by beech_nut (Post 772128)
Yeah, you really scored. You are the expert after all that experience.

It's ok, I didn't want to be there and I wasn't bound by a contract to stay so given that it cost them money and me nothing it goes in the win collumn.


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