Great Lakes' Part 135 plan
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And you are both looking at the post only through the source of GLA.
I look at the members post in a broader sense of anything training program that has high washouts rates = poor training.
I disagree.
If talking about ONLY GLA training - I'll reserve judgment because I've not gone through GLA's training program; but if it is 'military style boot camp' as one poster recalls, then I can relate.
Was bernouli only referencing GLA's training or is this how he feels about a relationship between high washout rates and poor training programs in general? Bernouli?
I look at the members post in a broader sense of anything training program that has high washouts rates = poor training.
I disagree.
If talking about ONLY GLA training - I'll reserve judgment because I've not gone through GLA's training program; but if it is 'military style boot camp' as one poster recalls, then I can relate.
Was bernouli only referencing GLA's training or is this how he feels about a relationship between high washout rates and poor training programs in general? Bernouli?
#453
It may seem like a waste to give people who really cannot cut it a bunch of wasted sim sessions, but Lakes (1) uses cheap level C sims run by low cost operators, and (2) tosses weak pilots out of those sims after only a few sessions. Most airlines use Level D sims such as those offered by Flight Safety, Simuflight, CAE etc. and while level C is still somewhat expensive to rent, probably more than a thousand per hour, it is an outdated machine using 80's technology with spotty online performance. But it is far less than the normal modern Level D sim costs per hour to lease. Last I heard there are only a couple of working Beech 1900 sims left in the world. Ground school only costs whatever they pay an underpaid FO to sit and click through a million powerpoint slides. I would venture a guess Lakes spends less than 3 grand on most washouts. As a business model it works fine as long is there is an abundant supply of pilots to pick through, which is exactly what they did until the supply suddenly dried up due to Colgan 3407 legislation.
Last edited by Cubdriver; 03-19-2014 at 06:31 PM.
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It may seem like a waste to give people who really cannot cut it a bunch of wasted sim sessions, but Lakes (1) uses cheap level C sims run by low cost operators, and (2) tosses weak pilots out of those sims after only a few sessions. Most airlines use Level D sims such as those offered by Flight Safety, Simuflight, CAE etc. and while level C is still somewhat expensive to rent, probably more than a thousand per hour, it is an outdated machine using 80's technology with spotty online performance. But it is far less than the normal modern Level D sim costs per hour to lease. Last I heard there are only a couple of working Beech 1900 sims left in the world. Ground school only costs whatever they pay an underpaid FO to sit and click through a million powerpoint slides. I would venture a guess Lakes spends less than 3 grand on most washouts. As a business model it works fine as long is there is an abundant supply of pilots to pick through, which is exactly what they did until the supply suddenly dried up due to Colgan 3407 legislation.
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