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flight81 07-12-2013 05:35 PM

Island Air
 
Anyone here work there that can answer a few questions?

Hiring?

Actual chance of getting hired?

Stability of the company?

Work rules and QOL?

pyroflyer 10-21-2013 01:40 AM

Yes they are hiring. They actually need people pretty bad. If you meet the requirements, have a pulse, and your not a total goone the chances are good! QOL is not the greatest considering Honolulu is extremely expensive, but if you can make ends meet and want to live in HI its not too bad of a gig. Your home every night and you work with the same bunch of people which for the most part is good.

fandango 10-21-2013 02:24 AM

Island air
 
deleted.....Island Air is fine....meant to reply to another thread....sorry...

Paid2fly 10-21-2013 07:17 PM


Originally Posted by flight81 (Post 1444013)
Anyone here work there that can answer a few questions?

Hiring?

Actual chance of getting hired?

Stability of the company?

Work rules and QOL?




You wanna bail on OO for Island Air?

New Guy 007 10-22-2013 06:14 PM


Originally Posted by pyroflyer (Post 1505203)
Yes they are hiring. They actually need people pretty bad. If you meet the requirements, have a pulse, and your not a total goone the chances are good! QOL is not the greatest considering Honolulu is extremely expensive, but if you can make ends meet and want to live in HI its not too bad of a gig. Your home every night and you work with the same bunch of people which for the most part is good.

Hi there pyroflyer, can you expand a little more on your previous reply? I know it is not cheap to live in Hi. Again, what about QOL, reserve time, schedules, up-grade time. Any talk about getting more ATR's. Any response would be great!

New Guy 007 10-22-2013 06:18 PM


Originally Posted by flight81 (Post 1444013)
Anyone here work there that can answer a few questions?

Hiring?

Actual chance of getting hired?

Stability of the company?

Work rules and QOL?

Hello flight81, have you been able to obtain any more info on Island Air?

Beaver Hunter 10-22-2013 08:19 PM

I flew for Island Air from 90-96. For what it was it paid ok and provided very good benefits. In fact we had a defined pension and fully paid health insurance. Things that I never appreciated till later in life. Don't think it's like that now.
The problem with Island Air is that it's full of X Aloha managers. They seem to collectively believe in painting 20 year old airplanes and calling them new. They then stand around with their hands in their pockets and wonder what went wrong. They have 4 airplanes to basically fly a 2 airplane schedule. Their reliability is crap. Fortunately the new president seems to understand this and will hopefully make the needed changes. Basically if they don't get new ATR's they will probably drive themselves out of business.
Back to pilot life styles. You usually work half the day 4 days a week. As. FO plan to find a gig working bar or some other type of flexible job. Be prepared to pay through the nose for everything. I spent the first 32 years of my life in Hawaii. I would never move back if that tells you anything.
Good luck

pyroflyer 11-09-2013 07:17 AM


Originally Posted by New Guy 007 (Post 1506254)
Hi there pyroflyer, can you expand a little more on your previous reply? I know it is not cheap to live in Hi. Again, what about QOL, reserve time, schedules, up-grade time. Any talk about getting more ATR's. Any response would be great!

New guy 007 the QOL has gone down a bit from previously due to the aircraft change. When we had the Dash8-100 the turn times were 25 mins. Now with the awesome New/really old ATR's the turn time has been increased to 40-45 mins meaning you spend more days flying because your on the ground more than the air. Part 117 will probably mean more days flying as well. Typically a bid line holder is now close to 18 days of flying. Reserve gets their guaranteed 70 and any open flying is payed 1.5. If you get on now upgrade time shouldn't be more than a year but that's if their expansion plan continues. The company is still kicking the can as far as choosing between the ATR 500 or the Q400. Either way something has to change otherwise like Beaver Hunter said we will probably go out of business. Hope this info helps!

7AC2B60 11-12-2013 12:03 PM


Originally Posted by pyroflyer (Post 1516516)
New guy 007 the QOL has gone down a bit from previously due to the aircraft change. When we had the Dash8-100 the turn times were 25 mins. Now with the awesome New/really old ATR's the turn time has been increased to 40-45 mins meaning you spend more days flying because your on the ground more than the air. Part 117 will probably mean more days flying as well. Typically a bid line holder is now close to 18 days of flying. Reserve gets their guaranteed 70 and any open flying is payed 1.5. If you get on now upgrade time shouldn't be more than a year but that's if their expansion plan continues. The company is still kicking the can as far as choosing between the ATR 500 or the Q400. Either way something has to change otherwise like Beaver Hunter said we will probably go out of business. Hope this info helps!

appreciate the info update

company projection on fleet size & timing in 2014?

any chance of updates to APC....last was in 6/12/2012:

Island Air | AirlinePilotCentral.com

thanks!

Gjn290 11-12-2013 05:28 PM

Can any insiders confirm if WP is firm on the 500 hours of multi-engine time? Seems absolutely ridiculous to require that. Is there a reason for it?

Also I just saw they are hiring street captains. Does anyone know how many?

pyroflyer 11-15-2013 02:02 PM


Originally Posted by Gjn290 (Post 1518738)
Can any insiders confirm if WP is firm on the 500 hours of multi-engine time? Seems absolutely ridiculous to require that. Is there a reason for it?

Also I just saw they are hiring street captains. Does anyone know how many?

500 is preferred but they have hired with just over 100 multi. The street captain number we heard was 30 but that's just rumor. The fleet is expected to be 9 aircraft but who knows. There is way to many rumors and it seems like we are still spinning our wheels with nothing happening. One thing is for sure if they wait too long for the aircraft replacement someone else is going to come into Hawaii and the chances of growth will dwindle.

Beaver Hunter 11-15-2013 10:57 PM

Unfortunately the history of Island Air is full of missed opportunities. It broke my heart every time it happened. They could be a great airline but I feel that inept management and poor funding have been a cancer on them. I hope that Casey can turn it around. If not? Some one else will step in and put the nail in their coffin.
Cheers

TallFlyer 12-02-2013 01:36 PM

Island Air
 
So are they operating the Dash now or the ATR? I see they've got Street Capt positions listed on their website, are they anticipating a lot of growth?

7AC2B60 12-02-2013 02:38 PM

Island Air re-fleet being reviewed
 

Originally Posted by TallFlyer (Post 1531630)
So are they operating the Dash now or the ATR? I see they've got Street Capt positions listed on their website, are they anticipating a lot of growth?


from Island Air website:

ATR 72 (212 Series)

About Our Aircraft | Island Air Hawaii

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eturbonews.com article, Sep 21, 2013

"..... the 78-seat Q400, which Island Air flew briefly in 2006, and the ATR-600, which seats from 64 to 70 passengers depending on configuration, are possibilities, according to a person familiar with the situation. Casey said the company’s analysis would include what to do with the existing fleet of ATR 72s."

Hawaii Island Air unreliable according to their CEO - eTurboNews.com

TallFlyer 12-02-2013 02:43 PM


Originally Posted by 7AC2B60 (Post 1531666)
from Island Air website:

ATR 72 (212 Series)

About Our Aircraft | Island Air Hawaii

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eturbonews.com article, Sep 21, 2013

"..... the 78-seat Q400, which Island Air flew briefly in 2006, and the ATR-600, which seats from 64 to 70 passengers depending on configuration, are possibilities, according to a person familiar with the situation. Casey said the company’s analysis would include what to do with the existing fleet of ATR 72s."

Hawaii Island Air unreliable according to their CEO - eTurboNews.com

Ok, you got me on that one. ;)

7AC2B60 12-02-2013 02:59 PM


Originally Posted by TallFlyer (Post 1531670)
Ok, you got me on that one. ;)

sent you PM

silver fleet 12-04-2013 09:39 AM

I am going to ask in two spaces here to "up" my post level so I can PM, so bear with me!

silver fleet 12-04-2013 09:39 AM

Is Island Air still looking for street Captains?

silver fleet 12-04-2013 09:40 AM

Lastly, is it tough to get on with Island Air if you dont have a HI address? I am looking at moving out there. Also, what is the latest on fleet renewal? Cheers!!!!

7AC2B60 12-04-2013 10:19 AM

Island Air website employment links
 

Originally Posted by silver fleet (Post 1533044)
Is Island Air still looking for street Captains?

current employment opportunities section of Island Air website as of 12/04/2013:

Current Job Openings | Island Air Hawaii

CA: http://www.islandair.com/wp-content/...FT-13-2061.pdf

FO: http://www.islandair.com/wp-content/...er-13-2052.pdf

Email: [email protected]

7AC2B60 12-04-2013 10:26 AM

Research fee.....
 

Originally Posted by silver fleet (Post 1533046)
Lastly, is it tough to get on with Island Air if you dont have a HI address? I am looking at moving out there. Also, what is the latest on fleet renewal? Cheers!!!!

suggest you read posts #2, 8, 9, 11 & 14 of this thread

btw, please make a donation to your local food bank....thanks!

Flyinhawaiian 12-04-2013 10:33 AM

Most pilots working there have some kind of tie to Hawaii. Never hurts to apply though. From what I hear, they need pilots.

silver fleet 12-04-2013 04:11 PM


Originally Posted by 7AC2B60 (Post 1533094)

Not to be rude, but I am looking for current up to date info if anyone has experienced a call. After 18 years in this industry, I know all to well that airlines arent the quickest to update their careers page.

The above has been posted for quite a while with no word of anyone getting calls.Case in point, JetBlue was actively interviewing this fall while the window was closed online. I am asking for up to date stuff, thats all.

I have been following this post and your references you noted I read are over 3 weeks old, a lot can happen in our industry in that time, especially if one is out shopping for a new platform; again, just asking if anyone had new intel. Also, I have 8k hours and 5k multi and a pulse, and cannot get a call, so post 2, 5, 13, 47, 74 or 9 isnt accurate.

Sorry if I came across rude, but just searching for an update. Cheers!

Moonwolf 12-04-2013 04:50 PM


Originally Posted by silver fleet (Post 1533313)
Not to be rude, but I am looking for current up to date info if anyone has experienced a call. After 18 years in this industry, I know all to well that airlines arent the quickest to update their careers page.

The above has been posted for quite a while with no word of anyone getting calls.Case in point, JetBlue was actively interviewing this fall while the window was closed online. I am asking for up to date stuff, thats all.

I have been following this post and your references you noted I read are over 3 weeks old, a lot can happen in our industry in that time, especially if one is out shopping for a new platform; again, just asking if anyone had new intel. Also, I have 8k hours and 5k multi and a pulse, and cannot get a call, so post 2, 5, 13, 47, 74 or 9 isnt accurate.

Sorry if I came across rude, but just searching for an update. Cheers!

Go ask at the hangar in HNL. They don't give stuff out to anybody online.

silver fleet 12-04-2013 05:43 PM

Poop, my company ceased operations, me no have travel :(

Stanimal 04-24-2014 02:48 PM

Received the call for Captain interview April 30. Any DEC's or current pilots with updated info I could PM?

amtk462 04-24-2014 09:42 PM

For which aircraft ATR or Q400 captain?

Stanimal 04-25-2014 07:04 AM

The ATR 72 is what I was told.

Gjn290 07-16-2014 10:35 PM

Bump... I have an interview coming up. I know they are starting people on third year pay plus bonuses, not a bad deal.

How long can a new hire expect to be on reserve? How often can guarantee be broken?

flight81 07-18-2014 05:00 PM


Originally Posted by Gjn290 (Post 1685922)
Bump... I have an interview coming up. I know they are starting people on third year pay plus bonuses, not a bad deal.

How long can a new hire expect to be on reserve? How often can guarantee be broken?

I sent a resume in. Can you let us in on what you have/did to get the call?

Gjn290 07-20-2014 01:37 PM


Originally Posted by flight81 (Post 1687195)
I sent a resume in. Can you let us in on what you have/did to get the call?

2500TT, 200ME, 2200 Turbine and I live in the Islands already. I received the phone call less than three hours after I submitted my resume.

When did you submit yours?

flight81 07-20-2014 03:51 PM

About a week. I'm sitting at 2000tt over 1000 Multi about 800 turbine and current 121 job.

flight81 07-25-2014 08:07 AM


Originally Posted by Gjn290 (Post 1688108)
2500TT, 200ME, 2200 Turbine and I live in the Islands already. I received the phone call less than three hours after I submitted my resume.

When did you submit yours?

Any update on the interview? How'd it go? I still haven't heard anything....

TwinFlyer 05-10-2015 06:12 AM

Abandon Ship! Closing LIH station, no new airplanes, and furloughs in June 2015

skid 05-10-2015 02:37 PM

That is really sad to hear. I guess the influx from the new ownership didnt work with the several management changes.

aviatorhi 05-10-2015 02:38 PM

Larry Ellison is making his small fortune in aviation, by starting with a big one. Not quite sure how you can lose 20+ million on a small ATR operation, but they found a way.

HighTailN2Pipes 05-10-2015 06:02 PM


Originally Posted by aviatorhi (Post 1877438)
Larry Ellison is making his small fortune in aviation, by starting with a big one. Not quite sure how you can lose 20+ million on a small ATR operation, but they found a way.

Just do the same thing their last owner did, and shelter tons of your taxes into the company's losses. Losing is winning.

aviatorhi 05-12-2015 04:20 AM


Originally Posted by HighTailN2Pipes (Post 1877640)
Just do the same thing their last owner did, and shelter tons of your taxes into the company's losses. Losing is winning.

Not at those sums on that budget... sometimes losing is just losing. His big pipe dream was to turn Island Air into basically "Lanai Air Shuttle". Turns out an island of 3000 residents and 1000 tourists doesn't need 10 ATR 72 flights a day.


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