endlessnight

Does anyone have a Piper Chieftain manual they don't need anymore?
I just got hired by a company that operates a couple and would like to get a head start on studying. I'll gladly pay the shipping cost if someone can part with one. Thanks in advance!

JohnBurke

If you're near the company, get one of their manuals and copy it.

There are a bunch for sale on Amazon. Same on ebay, and they're less expensive than the cost of xeroxing one.

PT6 Flyer

Hi EN,

Take a look at these. Let me know how much these help.

https://www.scribd.com/document/3408...ot-s-Operating

https://www.scribd.com/doc/98764075/...-Ground-School

endlessnight

They did help, thanks a lot!

PT6 Flyer

These videos might also help.

Carenado Piper Navajo Cold And Dark Startup/Flight tutorial
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=le_02QzyP2Q&t=34s

Tinian - Saipan midday commute Piper Navajo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_-SewBwVzs

Starting the PA31 Piper Navajo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISKbooJO5Xg

Engine Failure Demo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVz6NhusvAE

Yoda2

I have flown virtually all models of Navajo, including, once, a non-turbo. All my Navajo time is very old and I don't recall much, I would hardly consider myself any sort of Navajo expert. With that said, be careful about getting too in depth at this point. You would probably be best off with just a general overview and some operational gouge. Relating to the Chieftains, while they are all essentially the same; there are three different versions: '73>'76, '77>'79, and '80 and up. Another reason you don't want to get too detailed right now...

I can recall the following which might be of some help.

1) Take off and land on the inboards.
2) Get the nose gear on the runway fairly soon after touchdown (Especially if light in the back) It will "run out of tail" and slam down.
3) The gear has plenty of drag, and doesn't like to be drug around, so basically; gear down, going down.
4) Don't horse it around on the brakes during ground Ops. Think ahead when turning into a run up area, Etc.
5) It does have a bit of a drinking problem, so pay attention to your fuel.
6) Carry a flashlight during preflight, even in the day. (You will need to look way back in the engine cowlings to see the air filters)
7) Many operators, that carry PAX at night, brief the passengers about the glow from the turbocharger, as it can be seen at night through the engine cowlings and freaks people out.
8) Make sure all the engine cowl fasteners are installed and correctly, VERY important!
9) Make sure nose baggage door secure and locked! (applies to any twin...)
10) It is a good honest airplane. It handles like a truck, though you will learn the airplane quickly and come to like it.

Good luck

PerfInit

I flew the P-Navajo for a time.. If you lose one on takeoff, the drag from the cowl flaps wide open significantly hurts climb performance.
With the start switches being on the overhead panel, hot starts (vapor lock) was a “monkey motion, three handed ordeal” when single pilot.

PT6 Flyer

Dear Navajo pilots,

I am curious as to how a go-around / missed-approach is performed. Here are the things that I assume need to be done. What is the preferred order?

Gear up
Flaps up
Open cowl flaps
Pumps off

It seems to me that the cowl flaps are critical but I'm not sure of the best place for them in this scenario.

Mrhr5b

It really depends on what your company says if your flying at star marianas or at ameriflight wait till training so you don’t mess up your primacy. I’m currently flying the chieftain(basically the same thing) for a 135 and our go around looks like this:
Power full
Flaps 25
Flaps 15
Positive rate gear up
Accelerating through blue line flaps 0
Then potentially cowl flaps open...
We have our pumps on as part of our approach flow. We also have an IFR and vfr set on approach. In ifr set cowl flaps are already open to 1/2
Once we get to 1000’ we go into out climb checks which is were we go to climb power and shut off pumps
If you have questions feel free to pm me

PT6 Flyer

Thanks for the help! I really appreciate it.