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Old 03-24-2018, 09:20 AM   #1  
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Default Air Ambulance "Crew Safe Weight Policy"

Looking at a position near me flying the PC-12. It mentions a company weight limit policy, but does not define what this is. I also searched the NASEMSO website but I'm guessing it is company specific.

Typically, how is this defined? Is preference given to smaller applicants? Is there an industry standard for fixed-wing?

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Old 03-24-2018, 11:36 AM   #2  
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A couple operators near me say 240 and 250 lbs is the cutoff with full flight gear. So just because you are 250 naked and maybe 260 out the door it’s a no go. Yes I have heard stories of applicants getting rejected in favor of lighter guys. They walk a fine line with workplace discrimination.
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A couple operators near me say 240 and 250 lbs is the cutoff with full flight gear. So just because you are 250 naked and maybe 260 out the door it’s a no go. Yes I have heard stories of applicants getting rejected in favor of lighter guys. They walk a fine line with workplace discrimination.
Although, to look on the bright side, this could be the motivation to shed a couple pounds. Unless OP is super muscular I which case they're probably out of luck.
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There is no industry standard.
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Old 03-24-2018, 02:49 PM   #5  
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The CAMTS limit is 220 lbs, but that is usually only applied to RW ops.
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Considering that a pc-12 is such a great heavy haulers...have 3000 hrs in them....and often I was HAPPY we had two bigger guys in the cockpit...helped us from being too tail heavy.....
If it fits it flies, often with seats full (6 seat exec configuration and almost 6 hrs fuel on a dual battery plane, itself kinda rare outside of some specific operators). I kinda doubt the life support equipment is THAT heavy....
It's their company...but I suspect the weight limit is more about being an underhanded way to keep a "professional appearance" look without the legal issues of discrimination.....
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Old 03-24-2018, 10:30 PM   #7  
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2 pilots over 250 up front in an empty PC12 cargo config might require ballast in the baggage compartment.

Especially with the small o2 tank and single battery config.
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These rules usually come about because of limitations on the type of helicopters these companies prefer for cost (407, A-star). At places like Air Methods, they have a habit of treating their 1% fixed wing guys just like the rest of the company for simplicity. This may be the case in the OP’s post.
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Considering that a pc-12 is such a great heavy haulers...have 3000 hrs in them....and often I was HAPPY we had two bigger guys in the cockpit...helped us from being too tail heavy.....
If it fits it flies, often with seats full (6 seat exec configuration and almost 6 hrs fuel on a dual battery plane, itself kinda rare outside of some specific operators). I kinda doubt the life support equipment is THAT heavy....
It's their company...but I suspect the weight limit is more about being an underhanded way to keep a "professional appearance" look without the legal issues of discrimination.....
Ex Medevac PC12's are very heavy and W&B starts way aft. We have one and it's BEW is just over 6400lbs. CG starts at like 238. We call it "the diamond"...
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Ex Medevac PC12's are very heavy and W&B starts way aft. We have one and it's BEW is just over 6400lbs. CG starts at like 238. We call it "the diamond"...
Yea the Med beds weigh a lot.
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