Wheels up QOL and money
#41
You could argue that the King Air guys should get more than the jet drivers considering the extra workload. 3 times more levers in the cockpit too!
#43
In a land of unicorns
Joined APC: Apr 2014
Position: Whale FO
Posts: 6,401
OK. You're buzzing around doing 5 legs and sweating your balls off while you're trying to change the medieval lav in between flights. Then someone says come over to the XL or the X for roughly the same $$$. What are you going to do? Would you reply with - "I'm sorry. The $$$ is just too low for that airframe. I won't take the new type rating and the same pay. I'll just stay here in my KA and try to keep the sweat from dripping on the circuit breakers".
#44
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2018
Posts: 164
PIC
Year 1 - 90k
2 - 94k
3 - 98k
4 - 102k
5 - 106k
6 - 108k
7 - 110k
8 - 112k
9 - 115k
10 - 117k
SIC
Year 1 - 55k
2 - 60k
3 - 65k
4 - 70k
5 - 80k
6 - 82k
7 - 83k
8 - 85k
9 - 87k
10 - 88k
Once you pass your Command Evaluation, you move to year 1 PIC pay regardless of if you upgrade to PIC or remain as an SIC.
#45
If you were here for a few years and then had those times you wouldn't have been hired in the first place. This isn't an hour building outfit by any stretch.
#46
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2018
Posts: 164
While I agree this isn't a time building job in the traditional sense of flying a ton a year and pushing 1000 hours, I wouldn't consider it a job were you don't build time. Generally I seem to fly at a rate of about 600 hours per year. I'm sure some fly more and some fly less. While you might be able to build time faster somewhere else, this isn't a bad spot to consistently build a decent amount of time.
#47
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2013
Posts: 459
While I agree this isn't a time building job in the traditional sense of flying a ton a year and pushing 1000 hours, I wouldn't consider it a job were you don't build time. Generally I seem to fly at a rate of about 600 hours per year. I'm sure some fly more and some fly less. While you might be able to build time faster somewhere else, this isn't a bad spot to consistently build a decent amount of time.
That being said, for me this job is a career job as I am not going back to 121. It’s also a lot better than flying for any regional, unless a legacy is your goal.
#48
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2018
Posts: 164
I think what they (including me) mean is there’s a difference between a job where you build time, and a time building job. Also, the mins here are high enough that if you don’t have the time to at least apply everywhere else, you’re probably not going to get hired here.
That being said, for me this job is a career job as I am not going back to 121. It’s also a lot better than flying for any regional, unless a legacy is your goal.
That being said, for me this job is a career job as I am not going back to 121. It’s also a lot better than flying for any regional, unless a legacy is your goal.
We need good lower time people coming in as First Officers, even if they aren't going to stick around forever. I think this is a great place to come, gain good experience, fly to lots of cool places, and steadily build hours.
#49
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2013
Posts: 459
Completely agree with you. I'm here for the long haul as well. Just with the lowering FO minimums, I wouldn't want to scare off good people who may not look at this as a career, and thus wanting to continue to build time, from coming here with a statement such as this isn't a time building company. Someone looking to bypass the regionals or flying cargo could easily read that to say you won't build enough time to ever move on.
We need good lower time people coming in as First Officers, even if they aren't going to stick around forever. I think this is a great place to come, gain good experience, fly to lots of cool places, and steadily build hours.
We need good lower time people coming in as First Officers, even if they aren't going to stick around forever. I think this is a great place to come, gain good experience, fly to lots of cool places, and steadily build hours.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post