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kaputt 09-10-2018 05:54 PM

I certainly don't see how it will help their captain shortage. Since the hypothetical applicant is paying for their own training, I don't think Mokulele would have any leverage to keep someone there until they upgrade to Captain. Sure, the pilot will lose out on the "flow" to SkyWest and a $15,000 bonus. But in this day and age, the person could probably go to another regional with a bigger bonus.

dbdevkc 09-10-2018 06:19 PM

The basic concept does not sound much different than LIFT/Republic. With that you're paying $65k with a promise of a CFI job, then a FO job (as long as you pass everything). I would say LIFT is even worse because you're locked in for 5 years after getting in Republic (or if you leave early, you owe them another $20k).

dera 09-10-2018 06:45 PM


Originally Posted by dbdevkc (Post 2671806)
The basic concept does not sound much different than LIFT/Republic. With that you're paying $65k with a promise of a CFI job, then a FO job (as long as you pass everything). I would say LIFT is even worse because you're locked in for 5 years after getting in Republic (or if you leave early, you owe them another $20k).

Totally different. The $65k at LIFT gives you a qualification (CP ASEL/AMEL+CFI) that you can use anywhere.
The $7k at Mokulele gives you Mokulele specific 135 training that has zero benefit outside them.

captjns 09-10-2018 10:05 PM

With Cape Air, along with fractionala such as Plane Sense hiring low time newbies, why would anyone think about using Mommy and Daddy’s money to P2F?:(

captjns 09-10-2018 10:08 PM


Originally Posted by mike sierra (Post 2671498)
For me everyone that pays to fly is as bad as a scab

Learn the meaning of the word before you throw it out on the table.

NewCareer 09-12-2018 04:22 AM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 2671823)
Totally different. The $65k at LIFT gives you a qualification (CP ASEL/AMEL+CFI) that you can use anywhere.
The $7k at Mokulele gives you Mokulele specific 135 training that has zero benefit outside them.

So that isn’t even a type rating or anything? Just training on that specific airlines policies, etc?

KaranS 09-12-2018 05:14 AM


Originally Posted by NewCareer (Post 2672684)
So that isn’t even a type rating or anything? Just training on that specific airlines policies, etc?

Wouldn't you come out with at least a Caravan Type Rating?

tacocat 09-12-2018 05:25 AM


Originally Posted by KaranS (Post 2672724)
Wouldn't you come out with at least a Caravan Type Rating?

Caravans don’t require a type rating in the US.

zondaracer 09-12-2018 05:25 AM

No type rating is needed for a caravan.

dera 09-12-2018 06:25 AM


Originally Posted by NewCareer (Post 2672684)
So that isn’t even a type rating or anything? Just training on that specific airlines policies, etc?

Nothing, zilch, nada.
Caravan doesn't need a type rating.


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