Go Back   Airline Pilot Central Forums - Find your next job as a Pilot > >
Part 135 Part 135 commercial operators
 

Welcome to Airline Pilot Forums - Connect and get the inside scoop on Airline Companies

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ. Join our community today and start interacting with existing members. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free.


User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 03-22-2019, 07:08 PM   #1  
New Hire
Thread Starter
 
Joined APC: Feb 2019
Posts: 3
Default Alaska 135 Training Contracts

Looking a FO positions at Hageland, Ryan, Bering, and ACE. Anyone know which of these operators have training contracts? If so, what do they entail?

Primarily interested in Hageland for a 208 SIC position but heard they have a training contract requiring pilots to spend 1 year in the 207. If this is true, how long does it take to go right seat of the 208 to the 207?

Thanks
PacerMan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2019, 08:52 PM   #2  
Eject! Eject!!
 
cursesRedBaron's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Feb 2019
Position: Back in the saddle.
Posts: 112
Default

I can't tell you specifically which has contracts still, but I doubt any of them do.
There may not be quite the shortage of qualified pilots here in AK that there are elsewhere, but it is definitely felt.

I would contact them directly, if you are interested. Apply.

About how quickly you can go from RS of the 208 to LS of the 207; It would depend greatly on your flight time and how hard you are willing to work.
Alaskan based co. are usually very interested in how hard you are willing to work...not just on how good your flying skills are. They like guys that are willing to throw bags and help on the ramp when they aren't flying. And be willing to learn....even from a crusty old fart who doesn't have any jet type ratings.

That "don't like to get your hands dirty" works for 121 ops., not for 135 - at least not in AK.

cRB
cursesRedBaron is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2019, 10:38 PM   #3  
Line Holder
 
Joined APC: Apr 2017
Posts: 44
Default

A training contract to be a Caravan SIC is complete BS, DON’T DO IT! You can get a Sled job at 500 hours these days.
DenainaPilot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2019, 11:59 PM   #4  
Line Holder
 
Joined APC: Jan 2015
Position: Pilot
Posts: 38
Default

RavnConnect/Hageland has a training contract for new hires to spend 1 year as a PIC. You will also have to sign one for your ATP or a type rating for the 1900.
7051 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-24-2019, 03:52 AM   #5  
Gets Weekends Off
 
captjns's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Feb 2006
Position: B-737NG preferably in first class with a glass of champagne and caviar
Posts: 4,906
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DenainaPilot View Post
A training contract to be a Caravan SIC is complete BS, DON’T DO IT! You can get a Sled job at 500 hours these days.
SIC on a Caravan.... just as valuable as SIC on a C-152. Too funny.
captjns is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-24-2019, 06:20 AM   #6  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Sep 2015
Posts: 264
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by captjns View Post
SIC on a Caravan.... just as valuable as SIC on a C-152. Too funny.



But it's Turbine Time.
A Squared is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-24-2019, 05:03 PM   #7  
Gets Weekends Off
 
MacrossJet's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Dec 2015
Posts: 145
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DenainaPilot View Post
A training contract to be a Caravan SIC is complete BS, DON’T DO IT! You can get a Sled job at 500 hours these days.

With what companies though?
MacrossJet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-24-2019, 05:47 PM   #8  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jan 2018
Posts: 1,967
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by A Squared View Post
But it's Turbine Time.
Yes. SINGLE ENGINE TURBINE TIME, and second in command on an aircraft that doesn't actually REQUIRE a second in command. Where's the value there? And flying a well known ice magnet in Alaska. How many ways could that go wrong?

https://aviationweek.com/awin/faa-re...-caravan-fleet

Aviation Safety - Saving The Cessna Caravan
Excargodog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-24-2019, 06:26 PM   #9  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Sep 2015
Posts: 264
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Excargodog View Post
Yes. SINGLE ENGINE TURBINE TIME, and second in command on an aircraft that doesn't actually REQUIRE a second in command. Where's the value there? And flying a well known ice magnet in Alaska. How many ways could that go wrong?

https://aviationweek.com/awin/faa-re...-caravan-fleet

Aviation Safety - Saving The Cessna Caravan

I guess the humor went sailing over your head.
A Squared is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-24-2019, 10:02 PM   #10  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jan 2018
Posts: 1,967
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by A Squared View Post
I guess the humor went sailing over your head.
Nope. Agreeing with you. And waiting for someone to point out to me that the FAA had “solved” the ice problem by saying you could still fly into icing at a 500# reduced gross weight whereupon I was going to say that’s not much of a help when you unexpectedly ENCOUNTER icing after you are already loaded, though I suppose jettisoning the totally unneeded SIC might get you one-third of the way there....
Excargodog is offline   Reply With Quote
 
 
 

 
Reply

Tags
ace, hageland, training contract
 



Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Related Topics
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Training issues at SKW Aviator2019 SkyWest 245 Today 07:21 PM
Training Contracts and At Will Employment MR JT8D Aviation Law 7 06-16-2014 04:47 AM
Training Contracts? AKf8dawg Aviation Law 40 03-03-2014 12:42 PM
Why Don't People Hate Alaska Airlines? vagabond Hangar Talk 1 05-03-2011 05:44 PM
Alaska- For Pilots and Mechanics and those interested Kilgore Trout Part 135 46 06-19-2009 03:35 AM


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 11:54 PM.


vBulletin® v3.9.3.5, Copyright ©2000-2019, MH Sub I, LLC dba vBulletin
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Website Copyright ©2000 - 2017 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands

Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.1