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Old 04-24-2019, 09:25 PM
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This company claims to be in business since 1961. Not true. They have been operating a few light jets for about 6 months, Since Dec 2018. The pay is decent but the operation is a **** show. The DO has been arrested for Extreme DUI and can’t get a job anywhere else. He used to be the DO at “Alante Air” that place is also a dump. The company doesn’t even have an HR department. You can easily get fired and be on the hook for a training contract $30K for captain and 7K for FO. They will put you on situations where rules are bend. The owner is a pilot and has very little knowledge how to run a charter operation. Do your self a favor stay away.
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This company claims to be in business since 1961. Not true. They have been operating a few light jets for about 6 months, Since Dec 2018. The pay is decent but the operation is a **** show. The DO has been arrested for Extreme DUI and can’t get a job anywhere else. He used to be the DO at “Alante Air” that place is also a dump. The company doesn’t even have an HR department. You can easily get fired and be on the hook for a training contract $30K for captain and 7K for FO. They will put you on situations where rules are bend. The owner is a pilot and has very little knowledge how to run a charter operation. Do your self a favor stay away.
Sawyer Aviation in Arizona?

Sawyer has been in business for a long time now; apparently a lot longer than you.

Darrel Sawyer sold the place in 2000 to Swift; the company changed names, but the flight school kept the Sawyer name. The FBO was at Skyharbor for a very long time since 1939, I believe), with a long history of charter, maintenance, fuel sales, training, etc.

New to you, maybe.
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Three posts total, all three slamming operators. 3/10, would not read again.
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Clearly has no idea what he or she is talking about.
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I worked there 40 years ago, with a few other furloughed airline pilots and retired military pilots.

At the time it was a better than average general aviation place. Not perfect by any means, but still pretty good.

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Old 12-06-2019, 06:12 PM
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This place has tried to open operations in VNY, HOU and other places in California. All failed. The current pilots are quitting like 3 per month. The Chief Pilot position hasn’t lasted occupied by the same person longer than 6 months.
Director of operations quit after 6 months as well. A young dispatcher recently got fired be cause she donated her hair to Locks of love.
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This place has tried to open operations in VNY, HOU and other places in California. All failed. The current pilots are quitting like 3 per month. The Chief Pilot position hasn’t lasted occupied by the same person longer than 6 months.
Director of operations quit after 6 months as well. A young dispatcher recently got fired be cause she donated her hair to Locks of love.
I have no dog in this fight, but I am curious about the post. Did they turn you down for a job or fire you? Why all the negativity out of the blue? You have 4 posts and two are here so..............

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A young dispatcher recently got fired be cause she donated her hair to Locks of love.
This sounds like there are waaaaay more sides to this story
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Originally Posted by Lightchops View Post
This company claims to be in business since 1961. Not true. They have been operating a few light jets for about 6 months, Since Dec 2018. The pay is decent but the operation is a **** show. The DO has been arrested for Extreme DUI and can’t get a job anywhere else. He used to be the DO at “Alante Air” that place is also a dump. The company doesn’t even have an HR department. You can easily get fired and be on the hook for a training contract $30K for captain and 7K for FO. They will put you on situations where rules are bend. The owner is a pilot and has very little knowledge how to run a charter operation. Do your self a favor stay away.
Some things never change.... what a s@#% show ....
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Old 12-01-2020, 02:44 PM
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Here is a link. Notice of pending fair labor standards act lawsuit.

https://www.bffb.com/sawyer-aviation-flsa-class-action/
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