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Old 07-09-2019, 06:58 PM   #1  
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Default 135 Training/Check-ride with no medical?

I could have sworn I've seen it somewhere, but now I can't find it. Do you need a current medical to do 135 flight training, 135.293/297/299 in a simulator? Recurrent, not initial type or license.

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I could have sworn I've seen it somewhere, but now I can't find it. Do you need a current medical to do 135 flight training, 135.293/297/299 in a simulator? Recurrent, not initial type or license.

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I canít find exactly what youíre looking for either, but I can point out a couple things. Start with 61.3(c) which explains when a medical is required. Simulators are not mentioned, only aircraft. Check out 91.1089(c) which discusses check airmen and instructors in sims, and specifically carves out the medical even if acting as a required crew member.

Iím headed to FSI for recurrent soon, and they list a medical as a required document to bring. Best bet (short of getting in to see the AME) is to contact the director of training and/or the training partner being used and ask. The training partner is ultimately the one who will decide if your friend can sit for the check rides.
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So close. 61.23(b)8

(8) When taking a practical test or a proficiency check for a certificate, rating, authorization or operating privilege conducted in a glider, balloon, flight simulator, or flight training device;

That being said, a company can impose their own requirements.
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I canít find exactly what youíre looking for either, but I can point out a couple things. Start with 61.3(c) which explains when a medical is required. Simulators are not mentioned, only aircraft. Check out 91.1089(c) which discusses check airmen and instructors in sims, and specifically carves out the medical even if acting as a required crew member.

Iím headed to FSI for recurrent soon, and they list a medical as a required document to bring. Best bet (short of getting in to see the AME) is to contact the director of training and/or the training partner being used and ask. The training partner is ultimately the one who will decide if your friend can sit for the check rides.
Point of interest, 91.1089 is specifically for fractional operations, not 135.
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I could have sworn I've seen it somewhere, but now I can't find it. Do you need a current medical to do 135 flight training, 135.293/297/299 in a simulator? Recurrent, not initial type or license.

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Are you giving the training or getting trained? New rules come out soon I think to clarify. If you are giving the training, as long as they are rated in the category and class and type, I think you can give the training, even in the airplane. If youíre getting trained, likely see above.
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Point of interest, 91.1089 is specifically for fractional operations, not 135.
Moot point since the question was answered above, but I should have used 135.337(c) and mentioned the 91K and 121 equivalents. Thanks.
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