Wheels Up Operators (Gama, DPJ, TMC)
#101
On Reserve
Joined APC: Apr 2020
Position: FO
Posts: 17
From the DO at WUP, I understand some of the KA pilots didn’t get this.
“I just had a discussion with Greg. I have been told there is still another crew email with more specificity coming out from the company, for the pilots. I expect it later this evening. I will keep all up to date.“
“I just had a discussion with Greg. I have been told there is still another crew email with more specificity coming out from the company, for the pilots. I expect it later this evening. I will keep all up to date.“
#102
Gets Weekends Off
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Joined APC: Feb 2018
Posts: 164
KD’s handout was very clear that they were going to try to take advantage of the stimulus money, and the letter specified that the money was to avoid involuntary furloughs and (in bold) pay rate reductions. While they haven’t released the pay implications on the reduced schedule options, one can assume they will pay a reduced amount. Since us at Gama (not sure about TMC or DPJ) are paid a salary (not day rates or hourly), how can they reduce our salary and still say they are not reducing our pay rates?
#103
Because if you work 30% fewer days than your typical 8&6 you’ll be paid 30% less than your full salary, and if you work 50% less you’ll be paid 50% less according.
No reduction in pay rates, just a reduction in days worked, therefore days paid.
Disclaimer. I’m not a lawyer, just my take on it.
No reduction in pay rates, just a reduction in days worked, therefore days paid.
Disclaimer. I’m not a lawyer, just my take on it.
#104
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2019
Posts: 162
KD’s handout was very clear that they were going to try to take advantage of the stimulus money, and the letter specified that the money was to avoid involuntary furloughs and (in bold) pay rate reductions. While they haven’t released the pay implications on the reduced schedule options, one can assume they will pay a reduced amount. Since us at Gama (not sure about TMC or DPJ) are paid a salary (not day rates or hourly), how can they reduce our salary and still say they are not reducing our pay rates?
#105
Gets Weekends Off
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Joined APC: Feb 2018
Posts: 164
Because if you work 30% fewer days than your typical 8&6 you’ll be paid 30% less than your full salary, and if you work 50% less you’ll be paid 50% less according.
No reduction in pay rates, just a reduction in days worked, therefore days paid.
Disclaimer. I’m not a lawyer, just my take on it.
No reduction in pay rates, just a reduction in days worked, therefore days paid.
Disclaimer. I’m not a lawyer, just my take on it.
But we are not paid by a day rate. The FOH, which is what currently lays out our pay, and the offer letter when I was hired defines pay as a yearly salary. Again, I understand how they are assumed to be reducing it. However to me, the no reduction in pay rate part of the stimulus requirements seems to be directly addressing situations like this.
#106
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2016
Posts: 100
Didn’t the email say Wednesday starts were going away? I’m still on tour tomorrow with a rental car out of my original base (which isn’t part of the new base list) and my FO is arriving via airline travel. Just an FYI
#107
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jun 2016
Posts: 35
Also, on a side note: is there anything that actually says picking one of these reduced schedule programs is mandatory? Someone brought it to my attention that in every communication we’ve received, you can almost read it as being optional to “help out.” I was under the impression it’s mandatory but he seemed to think otherwise...
#108
On Reserve
Joined APC: Apr 2020
Position: FO
Posts: 17
Also, on a side note: is there anything that actually says picking one of these reduced schedule programs is mandatory? Someone brought it to my attention that in every communication we’ve received, you can almost read it as being optional to “help out.” I was under the impression it’s mandatory but he seemed to think otherwise...
#109
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jun 2016
Posts: 35
Thanks for clarifying that. I agree with you. I sympathize with them and understand they’ve been scrambling, but to receive the little info we’ve gotten with a decision date of Friday was a little sh***y...
#110
Gets Weekends Off
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Joined APC: Feb 2018
Posts: 164
Maybe it's my history with sketchy companies, but this omission over multiple emails from different people makes me nervous. I sure hope they wouldn't be trying to reduce salaries beyond the reduction in scheduled days, but again we are paid a yearly salary, nothing tied to days or hours worked.
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