Wheels Up Operators (Gama, DPJ, TMC)
#521
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Joined APC: Jun 2016
Posts: 35
From N800UP-N859UP is the proline 21, 859-893 is fusion. We have 73 total tails in those numbers, some are old UPS DC-8s. You’ll start on either the 21 or fusion, at your 6 month mark as a PIC you’d go to recurrent and get differences training, as an SIC you only go to recurrent every 12 months so you’d get differences training then
#522
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Joined APC: Oct 2018
Posts: 99
Yeah I realized that recently, was struggling to remember if 856 or 859 started the fusion birds. You’re absolutely right, it is 856. Thanks for the correction!
#523
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Joined APC: Jun 2015
Position: Left
Posts: 1,807
#524
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Joined APC: Feb 2015
Position: Begging for a crew meal
Posts: 233
Doesn’t matter. Nothing personal, but who cares? The operation from the gama pilot perspective is a rolling dumpster fire right now anyway. Only apply if you don’t enjoy eating or sleeping. I now understand why TMC and DPJ had such bad raps for pilot QOL. It’s too bad. ZERO concern for the pilots on the road right now. ZERO.
#525
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Joined APC: Jan 2007
Posts: 216
Doesn’t matter. Nothing personal, but who cares? The operation from the gama pilot perspective is a rolling dumpster fire right now anyway. Only apply if you don’t enjoy eating or sleeping. I now understand why TMC and DPJ had such bad raps for pilot QOL. It’s too bad. ZERO concern for the pilots on the road right now. ZERO.
#526
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Joined APC: Jul 2013
Posts: 459
Sorry guys and gals, the name of the game is productivity and utilization. If you need food and don’t have a built-in block, they are still providing crew meals and will work it out with you. Will you be tired? Yes. But fatigued? Call it a day.
Sadly, the days of them asking if you’ll need a crew meal are over, but they’ll still accommodate just as before.
Watch out for yourselves and your crew mates. Do what’s right for you, with good reason. Stay safe.
Sadly, the days of them asking if you’ll need a crew meal are over, but they’ll still accommodate just as before.
Watch out for yourselves and your crew mates. Do what’s right for you, with good reason. Stay safe.
#527
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Joined APC: Feb 2015
Position: Begging for a crew meal
Posts: 233
Sorry guys and gals, the name of the game is productivity and utilization. If you need food and don’t have a built-in block, they are still providing crew meals and will work it out with you. Will you be tired? Yes. But fatigued? Call it a day.
Sadly, the days of them asking if you’ll need a crew meal are over, but they’ll still accommodate just as before.
Watch out for yourselves and your crew mates. Do what’s right for you, with good reason. Stay safe.
Sadly, the days of them asking if you’ll need a crew meal are over, but they’ll still accommodate just as before.
Watch out for yourselves and your crew mates. Do what’s right for you, with good reason. Stay safe.
#528
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Joined APC: Jul 2013
Posts: 459
I understand. And it get tiresome on the road having to ask for a break when you need it.
As far as a fatigue policy, if you need to call fatigued, call fatigued. If you get pushback contact your supervisor.
If you’re looking for a “work rules” policy, have you submitted a “suggestion for improvement” through the Proper channels? Ie the occurrence reporting link? That would be my suggestion if you see the need for a specific improvement.
As far as a fatigue policy, if you need to call fatigued, call fatigued. If you get pushback contact your supervisor.
If you’re looking for a “work rules” policy, have you submitted a “suggestion for improvement” through the Proper channels? Ie the occurrence reporting link? That would be my suggestion if you see the need for a specific improvement.
#529
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2015
Position: Begging for a crew meal
Posts: 233
I understand. And it get tiresome on the road having to ask for a break when you need it.
As far as a fatigue policy, if you need to call fatigued, call fatigued. If you get pushback contact your supervisor.
If you’re looking for a “work rules” policy, have you submitted a “suggestion for improvement” through the Proper channels? Ie the occurrence reporting link? That would be my suggestion if you see the need for a specific improvement.
As far as a fatigue policy, if you need to call fatigued, call fatigued. If you get pushback contact your supervisor.
If you’re looking for a “work rules” policy, have you submitted a “suggestion for improvement” through the Proper channels? Ie the occurrence reporting link? That would be my suggestion if you see the need for a specific improvement.
#530
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Joined APC: Jul 2013
Posts: 459
Management will not see a “suggestion for improvement” on a report and suddenly realize there is no fatigue policy. Of course everyone knows that. It’s done on purpose so as not to have to follow any written guidance. It’s also a good deterrent. All These issues are beyond obvious to everyone. It’s gotten to the point that the only reasoning is that they just don’t care. This stuff can easily be resolved with a little effort.
I’ve never heard of anyone submitting any kind of suggestion for some sort of “work rules” policy, which is what you are looking for. As the old saying goes, ‘how do you know until you try.’ As people leave, and they are leaving, things may change. But it sure as hell isn’t going to change if the deficiencies aren’t brought to management’s attention. Until then, they are going to run the schedule as tight as possible until you cry “mercy” (call fatigued”).
I know it’s not all sunshine and roses here, but it could be a hell of a lot worse. If you have a suggestion for a feasible change for the better bring it up. If it doesn’t change, or you don’t want to make a suggestion, there’s lots of hiring spooling up.
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