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05-31-2021, 09:40 AM
#501
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Joined APC: Jul 2013
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Originally Posted by David Puddy
Are the KA pilots flying (and cross-trained in) both the PL21 and PL Fusion? What % of the KA fleet uses PL21 vs PL Fusion - and for those with experience in both, do you guys have a preference?
06-01-2021, 07:37 AM
#502
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Originally Posted by David Puddy
Are the KA pilots flying (and cross-trained in) both the PL21 and PL Fusion? What % of the KA fleet uses PL21 vs PL Fusion - and for those with experience in both, do you guys have a preference?
From N800UP-N859UP is the proline 21, 859-893 is fusion. We have 73 total tails in those numbers, some are old UPS DC-8s. You’ll start on either the 21 or fusion, at your 6 month mark as a PIC you’d go to recurrent and get differences training, as an SIC you only go to recurrent every 12 months so you’d get differences training then
06-02-2021, 06:40 PM
#503
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Joined APC: Jun 2015
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Originally Posted by Tankerds
From N800UP-N859UP is the proline 21, 859-893 is fusion. We have 73 total tails in those numbers, some are old UPS DC-8s. You’ll start on either the 21 or fusion, at your 6 month mark as a PIC you’d go to recurrent and get differences training, as an SIC you only go to recurrent every 12 months so you’d get differences training then
06-03-2021, 07:00 AM
#505
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Joined APC: May 2021
Posts: 2
Originally Posted by JohnBurke
It's hard to understand how anyone can get past day one of being paid to be a pilot, and doesn't already have their own headset.
06-03-2021, 09:34 AM
#507
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Originally Posted by Jet12
Not going to complain if they’re providing an A20 on board. Don’t have to carry a headset for 8 days or buy/recharge batteries. Sounds like a good deal to me.
Agreed, not sure what that other dude is on about. All of us have our own headsets for when we go fly on our own, but I don’t own an expensive noise canceling one cause I’ve never had a need. Some people can never see outside of their own small little box, always amusing
06-03-2021, 10:45 AM
#508
Disinterested Third Party
Joined APC: Jun 2012
Posts: 5,995
You've got children talking about wearing kneeboards, as if they're still student pilots, and who can't be bothered to own or use a simple tool of the trade that every pilot should be supplying himself; a headset.
An employer may put headsets in the airplane, and in rare circumstances, hard wire them in to ensure that the headsets aren't removed, and that only those headsets get used.
We are in a time when the FAA has waived oxygen mask requirements to preclude the necessity of crew infecting one another. Having one's own headset, with one's own mic and mic muff and ear seals and headband, is not only prudent, but responsible. To fail to bring one's own headset is laziness.
Perhaps it's time to put on the big boy pants.
An employer may put headsets in the airplane, and in rare circumstances, hard wire them in to ensure that the headsets aren't removed, and that only those headsets get used.
We are in a time when the FAA has waived oxygen mask requirements to preclude the necessity of crew infecting one another. Having one's own headset, with one's own mic and mic muff and ear seals and headband, is not only prudent, but responsible. To fail to bring one's own headset is laziness.
Perhaps it's time to put on the big boy pants.
06-03-2021, 01:39 PM
#509
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Joined APC: Mar 2018
Posts: 64
Originally Posted by JohnBurke
You've got children talking about wearing kneeboards, as if they're still student pilots, and who can't be bothered to own or use a simple tool of the trade that every pilot should be supplying himself; a headset.
An employer may put headsets in the airplane, and in rare circumstances, hard wire them in to ensure that the headsets aren't removed, and that only those headsets get used.
We are in a time when the FAA has waived oxygen mask requirements to preclude the necessity of crew infecting one another. Having one's own headset, with one's own mic and mic muff and ear seals and headband, is not only prudent, but responsible. To fail to bring one's own headset is laziness.
Perhaps it's time to put on the big boy pants.
An employer may put headsets in the airplane, and in rare circumstances, hard wire them in to ensure that the headsets aren't removed, and that only those headsets get used.
We are in a time when the FAA has waived oxygen mask requirements to preclude the necessity of crew infecting one another. Having one's own headset, with one's own mic and mic muff and ear seals and headband, is not only prudent, but responsible. To fail to bring one's own headset is laziness.
Perhaps it's time to put on the big boy pants.
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