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Old 01-10-2019, 10:17 AM   #1161  
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The very limited amount of information I know about Leidos has come from guys who went there and then came back. Leidos aggressively hired a bunch of pilots and then had no planes for them to fly. If one went to Leidos RIGHT NOW, how long before the first downrange paycheck? I also noticed there are no positions open any more except for SIC. Is the hiring done?
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Old 01-10-2019, 10:49 AM   #1162  
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The very limited amount of information I know about Leidos has come from guys who went there and then came back. Leidos aggressively hired a bunch of pilots and then had no planes for them to fly. If one went to Leidos RIGHT NOW, how long before the first downrange paycheck? I also noticed there are no positions open any more except for SIC. Is the hiring done?
That hurt. The AWR delay resulted in losing good guys. Everything was sub,itted, but it was slow getting the paperwork back from Govt.. Paychecks start on pay periods, 2 week cycle. We hired SICs, but not sure were we are at with hiring more. Number wise, we will need more Leads and PICs.
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Old 01-10-2019, 12:05 PM   #1163  
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Poor CRM, lack of SA, and then there's instances such as the most recent mid-air are just a few.
Can you elaborate on the mid-air?
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Old 01-11-2019, 09:43 PM   #1164  
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L-3 PIC and SIC pay has already been disclosed on this thread... so not sure what the argument about Leidos pay is about... if its so great why not let us know what they are offering for pay, rotations etc etc...??
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Old 01-12-2019, 07:59 AM   #1165  
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Dynamic does as well.


"I'm sure this ask been asked previously, but this thread is huge: How realistic is getting this job without the clearence?"

Pretty easily. As KA350 said every year folks leave so hiring seems to be constantly open. I was hired without a clearance and only waited 3mo for the interim.
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Old 01-12-2019, 03:09 PM   #1166  
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L-3 PIC and SIC pay has already been disclosed on this thread... so not sure what the argument about Leidos pay is about... if its so great why not let us know what they are offering for pay, rotations etc etc...??
Exactly. Why the secret
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Old 01-12-2019, 09:01 PM   #1167  
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Exactly. Why the secret
It could be an abundance of caution. Defense aviation is a very small group so its probably not difficult to figure out who is who.

Let the other guy take the fall for running his mouth and all.
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Old 01-14-2019, 02:04 AM   #1168  
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It could be an abundance of caution. Defense aviation is a very small group so its probably not difficult to figure out who is who.

Let the other guy take the fall for running his mouth and all.
In the industry so Im very aware of caution. The question is why be so quiet about pay, rotation, benefits etc. I could find it Im just honestly to lazy to reach out to those within.
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Old 01-14-2019, 08:52 PM   #1169  
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I'm a retired former F-16 pilot looking to get hired on, but not sure whether I qualify to apply for the PIC or SIC position. I assume SIC as I don't have any turbo prop time. 450hrs multi engine as a former AT and T-38C IP, and the 3 hours or so in a Beach Duchess getting my ATP, but the bulk of my PIC time (2300+) comes from the F-16 (1900). I do have nearly 900 IP hours and was a SEFE if that helps. But I assume they'd want me to get some air under my arse as a right seater before they let me be a PIC, right?
Also, what is SIC-2?
Thanks for any words/advice

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Old 01-15-2019, 04:06 AM   #1170  
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I'm a retired former F-16 pilot looking to get hired on, but not sure whether I qualify to apply for the PIC or SIC position. I assume SIC as I don't have any turbo prop time. 450hrs multi engine as a former AT and T-38C IP, and the 3 hours or so in a Beach Duchess getting my ATP, but the bulk of my PIC time (2300+) comes from the F-16 (1900). I do have nearly 900 IP hours and was a SEFE if that helps. But I assume they'd want me to get some air under my arse as a right seater before they let me be a PIC, right?
Also, what is SIC-2?
Thanks for any words/advice
You are correct that you would be SIC for your first 180 days. Unfortunately, while Viper time is awesome and should mean a lot, it is only single engine time. They specifically want 300 hours PIC in a twin TP for the PIC position. But $120k a year for year 1 as an SIC isn’t terrible. And it’s an automatic PIC upgrade. SIC2 is just the designation for the position.
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