Wheels Up Hiring
Hello all,
I am a CFI/CFII reaching R-ATP minimums. I have always been interested in 135 flying, but ending up at a major 121 carrier is my end goal. With regional class dates being pushed so far back, I am starting to seriously consider applying to wheels up. I have a couple of questions that I couldn't find answers to during my research. My first question is, are they actively hiring, and if so, are they experiencing any class/training delays? My second question is can I expect to make the minimum salary of 70,000 flying the king air as an FO? I saw some mention of extra soft pay depending on legs flown but could not find a solid answer anywhere. I appreciate any and all insight. |
I know this doesn't answer your question, but the new Wheels Up Senior VP of Operations just got banished from Delta and sent to Wheels Up. Under no circumstances would I want to work anywhere with that guy is running the operation.
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Originally Posted by StoneQOLdCrazy
(Post 3766712)
I know this doesn't answer your question, but the new Wheels Up Senior VP of Operations just got banished from Delta and sent to Wheels Up. Under no circumstances would I want to work anywhere with that guy is running the operation.
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Originally Posted by ThatOneCFI
(Post 3766564)
Hello all,
I am a CFI/CFII reaching R-ATP minimums. I have always been interested in 135 flying, but ending up at a major 121 carrier is my end goal. With regional class dates being pushed so far back, I am starting to seriously consider applying to wheels up. I have a couple of questions that I couldn't find answers to during my research. My first question is, are they actively hiring, and if so, are they experiencing any class/training delays? My second question is can I expect to make the minimum salary of 70,000 flying the king air as an FO? I saw some mention of extra soft pay depending on legs flown but could not find a solid answer anywhere. I appreciate any and all insight. The pay is, in the long term, immaterial. What really matters is which job fills gaps in your resume? Which improves your resume the most? The quickest? Which flies the most? For regional pilots the top 2 items doing well in training is - good grades and prior Part 121 experience. To some extent that probably applies to getting to a major airline. I'd stick with pursuing Part 121 flying. |
Originally Posted by ThatOneCFI
(Post 3766564)
Hello all,
I am a CFI/CFII reaching R-ATP minimums. I have always been interested in 135 flying, but ending up at a major 121 carrier is my end goal. With regional class dates being pushed so far back, I am starting to seriously consider applying to wheels up. I have a couple of questions that I couldn't find answers to during my research. My first question is, are they actively hiring, and if so, are they experiencing any class/training delays? My second question is can I expect to make the minimum salary of 70,000 flying the king air as an FO? I saw some mention of extra soft pay depending on legs flown but could not find a solid answer anywhere. I appreciate any and all insight. |
Be extremely careful about Wheels Up, especially if they have a training contract. Their financials have been teetering on the edge for quite a while now. Delta is bailing them out so far because they have a huge liability if WU ceases operations.
My big concern revolves around a training contract, if they have one. What happens if they file Chapter 11 and slash pilot pay? Are you still stuck with the training contract? If no contract then by all means grab the type rating and hope for the best. |
Originally Posted by AirBear
(Post 3774773)
What happens if they file Chapter 11 and slash pilot pay? Are you still stuck with the training contract?
. Because the "bankruptcy = pilot pay cuts" idea is from the history of pre-deregualtion era contracts getting gutted 20 years ago. And they were cut because they were above market wages. WheelsUp pilot pay is not significantly (at all?) above market. |
Originally Posted by AirBear
(Post 3774773)
Be extremely careful about Wheels Up, especially if they have a training contract. Their financials have been teetering on the edge for quite a while now. Delta is bailing them out so far because they have a huge liability if WU ceases operations.
My big concern revolves around a training contract, if they have one. What happens if they file Chapter 11 and slash pilot pay? Are you still stuck with the training contract? If no contract then by all means grab the type rating and hope for the best. |
Originally Posted by RockyPilot14
(Post 3774783)
If any company goes into bankruptcy then that doesn’t bode well for anyone. Any aviation company is always teetering on the edge, some more than others, tough business. WUP had a rough stretch as they expanded pretty quickly and purchased a few companies. They are making corrections and figuring it out. It’s not the doom and gloom everyone thinks. To answer the contract question, yes there is for one year but you can buy yourself out at a prorated price. It’s not that bad. Also, most people do not have a contract with Wheels Up, but with one of the companies that they had purchased. And the contract is with that company, not with Wheels Up. Until just a couple years ago, Wheels Up didn’t actually own any aircraft.
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Most of Wheels Up's planes are junk. Worn out King Air 350's and Beechjet 400A's
The reason they are not profitable is because their planes go down for maintenance every other leg. If you enjoy sitting around at airports for days, waiting on your plane to be fixed than it is a great place to work. If you like racking up hours in your logbook, than work for a company that doesn't have to contract out every single maintenance job. |
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