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Old 07-29-2007, 06:31 AM
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I saw an ad on find-a-pilot where Ram Air Freight is hiring pilots for VFR 135 operations. Anyone know what their VFR pilots are doing? Are they simply flying freight in VFR conditions and, if so, what are their limitations. I know it would have to be VFR, but is it limited to day operations and is there a distance limitation? Can you only carry boxes Part 135 VFR or can you carry pax as well? Thanks and sorry if this is a dumb question.
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Old 07-29-2007, 02:06 PM
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Don't know anything about RAM's deal. I would be interested in how they handle a schedule.

As far as 135 VFR in general,

I flew VFR 135 once in passenger ops in a 172 and a 310. I took a checkride with the POI at the FSDO, which was pretty much all under the hood with approaches. Even though you fly VFR, they expect you to handle unexpected IFR conditions. There was no distance limitations, and I flew into places like BWI, PIT, and DCA (yes, it was back in the day). The company had to be selective on which trips I was assigned to because of weather, and if there would sometimes put an IFR pilot on alert to bump me if I couldn't do it.
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Gauley pretty much has it right. Now there's another interpretation I've heard of, but haven't really seen it in use is you can have a VFR guy file and fly IFR, but only if the departure and destination airports are to be VFR at the appropriate departure and arrival times.
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Originally Posted by Ewfflyer View Post
Gauley pretty much has it right. Now there's another interpretation I've heard of, but haven't really seen it in use is you can have a VFR guy file and fly IFR, but only if the departure and destination airports are to be VFR at the appropriate departure and arrival times.
I've heard that exact thing as well. Never looked too deep into it tho
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I know this thread is pretty much over but for those who come back to it if RAM starts picking back up VFR 135 pilots again...

My MEI from back in the day use to work for RAM. They were hurting back in the beginning of this thread due to the lowering of 121 mins.

The plan was to fly strickly VFR 135 during revenue flights (no limits to day, night, or distance). On empty legs (non-rev) you are flying more or less under 91 and would fly IFR.
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Looked at them as well. Pay sucks, but you can't beat the show times and the experience in flying in weather as unpredictable in the SE.

Good times.
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You said it. I've been looking at them for awhile too just for the experience. They seem to be a great 135 company to work for other than the pay. If you're willing to relocate from the RDU or CLT area multi transition comes pretty quick. I just can't seem to make myself justify the pay cut at this time.
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Does anyone know if Flight Express will hire only with 135 VFR mins? My last instructor was hired by them but didn't make 135 IFR mins so he flies VFR for now till he gets more hours. Didn't see anything about it on the website.
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VFR 135 mins? What are those and can you serioulsy get a job with them?
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Originally Posted by ChinookDriver47 View Post
VFR 135 mins? What are those and can you serioulsy get a job with them?
500TT is the only hard one to get for low-timers, everything else just falls into place. As far as jobs, Scenic 135 operators out west use these guys all the time.
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