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SVA402 04-17-2009 11:41 AM

Latest word at Ameriflight is all hiring suspended. Next class will likely be in June.

TangoBar 04-24-2009 10:30 PM


Originally Posted by Scooter2525 (Post 593282)
congrats mang. go buy urself a hand held gps.

Bah, you don't need a GPS to fly up there. They still use ADFs. The needles on those things always tell you... well, something. They definitely point in a direction. Sometimes several directions- that's like getting a bonus!

fjetter 05-03-2009 07:53 PM

This question is aimed at AMF, Airnet, Ram Air, etc. Do your companies give you an ATP if you have the qualifications when going through new hire training. I ask because its probably gonna be a while before they hire below ATP mins again.

TransMach 05-04-2009 01:36 AM

AMF and ATP's
 
At AMF getting an ATP as a result of new hire training is a "Not a Chance" ... why would a new employer improve your resume beyond their needs for a new hire. Are you kidding.

Although AMF doesn't fly cargo Learjets any more, even those captains didn't need an ATP. Their (most senior) passenger jet captains, YES. Cargo jet captains, NO (although they all have them).

AMF will provide you with an ATP after a year or two working as a PA31 or BE99 pilot ...

If you're looking for a way to get someone to pay for your ATP, look elsewhere.

TransMach

SD3FR8DOG 05-04-2009 08:59 AM

If your bonded by a contract why wouldn't they give you the ATP if you wanted it. A type ride is esentially the same.

fjetter 05-04-2009 11:20 AM


Originally Posted by SD3FR8DOG (Post 605354)
If your bonded by a contract why wouldn't they give you the ATP if you wanted it. A type ride is esentially the same.

That's what I was thinking, don't you have to perform to ATP standards for the 135 ride anyways?

loudgarrettdriver 05-04-2009 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by fjetter (Post 605391)
That's what I was thinking, don't you have to perform to ATP standards for the 135 ride anyways?


If they won't, take the written and rent a twin, take the ride and you'll have the ATP. Everything else is just an add-on.

From my experience, most insurance carriers at legit operations require and ATP.

Bottom line, a type ride is the same as an ATP ride wether you're in a Duchess or and Airbus. (Straight out of the FAA PTS) Why would you want to put a type on a commercial cert anyway? pretty useless.

SD3FR8DOG 05-04-2009 02:15 PM


Why would you want to put a type on a commercial cert anyway? pretty useless.
My place only requires 1200hrs for upgrade, so commercial with type rating it is. Other corporate jobs out there too where you can have a type on a commercial. e.g. Type rated f/o. I myself went and did the ATP written over a course of a weekend while in upgrade training so could get the ATP with the type.

Strobe 05-07-2009 07:34 AM


Originally Posted by insanelyradical (Post 499948)
Just to let everyone who has put in their stuff, I emailed my resume to the asst. chief pilot in PHX (I got his email address from a buddy who used to work there and knows him) on 11/7/08 and have not heard anything back yet. I'm just wondering if anyone else has heard anything. Also looking for suggestions on what the next step should be. (ie. email him the same stuff again, email him saying I am still interested, send in my stuff normally, etc.) My times are 1450TT 400ME and i'm currently a CFI.

Was he expecting to hear from you via his email acct.?
If not, you may have risked alienating the ACP\CP by going around the normal App process and perhaps he did not appreciate receiving an email from a stranger, let alone a job applicant.. Think about it.? He was not made aware of your contacting him.

I would be cautious about doing it again.

Find someone that works there and is willing to vouch for you and walk in your resume.
Good luck to you,

freightdog 05-07-2009 10:34 AM


Originally Posted by Strobe (Post 606685)
Was he expecting to hear from you via his email acct.?
If not, you may have risked alienating the ACP\CP by going around the normal App process and perhaps he did not appreciate receiving an email from a stranger, let alone a job applicant.. Think about it.? He was not made aware of your contacting him.

I would be cautious about doing it again.

Find someone that works there and is willing to vouch for you and walk in your resume.
Good luck to you,

Do it the way everyone else has been doing it. Go through the Burbank Flight Department. The ACP out in PHX has enough stuff to do right now, as do most of the base ACPs.

krinkldink 05-20-2009 08:07 PM

Does Ameriflight have GPS in their planes? Or are they still using ADF's?

freightdog 05-21-2009 07:54 AM


Originally Posted by krinkldink (Post 614239)
Does Ameriflight have GPS in their planes? Or are they still using ADF's?

Both, we're getting GPSs' in the PA31s, Be99s, Metros and the airports that have NDBs with GPS overlays are getting the aircraft on those runs. Some places we still regularly use ADFs.

TangoBar 05-21-2009 08:02 PM


Originally Posted by fjetter (Post 605221)
This question is aimed at AMF, Airnet, Ram Air, etc. Do your companies give you an ATP if you have the qualifications when going through new hire training. I ask because its probably gonna be a while before they hire below ATP mins again.

For AMF, no, not for new hires. The company is not opposed to giving you an ATP, but it depends on the situation. Checkrides in the PA31 and BE99 are generally conducted by company check airmen, and there may not be any check airmen who are also DPEs. However, if you are taking a type ride for one of the larger aircraft, and you meet all the requirements for an ATP (written and aero exp.), you would most likely be able to get the ATP. Basically, since you need to ride with a DPE anyway for the type rating, there's no additional cost to take an ATP ride at the same time.

I am fairly certain that AMF does not have any inention of making the ATP a requirement for being hired for the PA31- frankly, most people who have an ATP don't want to deal with flying a Chieftain!


Originally Posted by loudgarrettdriver (Post 605428)
Why would you want to put a type on a commercial cert anyway? pretty useless.

Getting the type on a commercial cert makes a lot of sense for an AMF pilot who has the chance to upgrade to a large aircraft but doesn't meet all the minimums for an ATP.

SVA402 06-01-2009 04:30 PM

Any other AMF poolees going to class next week?

find a way 06-02-2009 08:58 AM

and also, for the poeple who did get a class, how many hours do you have and qualifications. im just curious to see how far down the pool list i really am.

Spoilers 06-02-2009 09:09 AM

Friend of mine is going to be in next weeks class. He is right around 135 mins. Not sure how much Multi he has.

SVA402 06-02-2009 09:16 AM

3500TT, 2000ME, ATP, 3 EMB Types.

Scooter2525 06-02-2009 10:49 PM

what bases were you guys hired in and what eqp?

SVA402 06-03-2009 06:51 AM

PA-31 Open Domicile is all they're doing now.

UltraFlyer1982 06-10-2009 06:31 PM

please don't tell me you wouldn't fly for Ameriflight just because they don't have a GPS.... if you need a GPS everywhere you go, then you need to learn how to fly. :rolleyes:

Spoilers 06-24-2009 08:29 AM

I have an interview coming up with AMF in SLC. Does anyone have any specific interview info for that location?

Thx.

reserveslob 06-24-2009 01:55 PM

So how are things going at AMF? East of the Mississippi with Airnet things are creeping along as good as this economy will allow, so I was just curious how out west is doing. Hoping to move back out there if things turn better and Ameriflight could use a slob on the payroll.

hi208 06-24-2009 03:04 PM


Originally Posted by reserveslob (Post 634597)
So how are things going at AMF? East of the Mississippi with Airnet things are creeping along as good as this economy will allow, so I was just curious how out west is doing. Hoping to move back out there if things turn better and Ameriflight could use a slob on the payroll.

Ameriflight is hiring right now. Go to ameriflight.com and fill out the online application.

reserveslob 06-24-2009 03:57 PM

Are you sure? I sent in an online application about a month ago and updated it not too long ago and got nothing back. Not that I am that high time or anything. 1750TT, 700 multi, 7 Navajo, 75 C-208. I am thinking that maybe if I can get around 100 hours in the Navajo I will be more marketable for SEA, PDX, or anywhere within 5 hours or Central Washington. Hoping against hope to get back there and set up shop. I guess I am not in a huge rush, Airnet pays a nomad like myself pretty good with awesome travel bennies. Just sucks being at least a two leg/1000mile commute from any friends or family:(

undflyboy06 06-25-2009 09:25 PM

Has anyone else had any issues when trying to send your completed application to Ameriflight?

I spent a good 30-45 minutes putting all my times in, and when I submitted my application the next page on internet explorer came up as an error page. I tried several times, but each time the app would successfully go through :confused:.

CloudPilot57 06-25-2009 10:08 PM


Originally Posted by undflyboy06 (Post 635377)
Has anyone else had any issues when trying to send your completed application to Ameriflight?

I spent a good 30-45 minutes putting all my times in, and when I submitted my application the next page on internet explorer came up as an error page. I tried several times, but each time the app would successfully go through :confused:.

Same thing! I figured it was a time thing, becasue it took me a while to add everything up and break stuff down for 12 mo times etc. I copied and pasted the whole page into microsoft word and then tried again. I got interrupted and same thing. So I did it once more in 5 min and it went through. Try to do it under 10 min and it should work!

Scooter2525 06-26-2009 12:06 AM


Originally Posted by CloudPilot57 (Post 635388)
Same thing! I figured it was a time thing, becasue it took me a while to add everything up and break stuff down for 12 mo times etc. I copied and pasted the whole page into microsoft word and then tried again. I got interrupted and same thing. So I did it once more in 5 min and it went through. Try to do it under 10 min and it should work!


I would contact the recruiting hotline and see if they have an app they can email for you to print and fax in. I had the same issue back in the day, and that is how I got around it. Good luck.

undflyboy06 06-26-2009 05:21 AM

Thanks guys, I feel better that I wasn't the only one having issues.

FlyingPirate 06-26-2009 06:44 AM


Originally Posted by undflyboy06 (Post 635377)
Has anyone else had any issues when trying to send your completed application to Ameriflight?

I spent a good 30-45 minutes putting all my times in, and when I submitted my application the next page on internet explorer came up as an error page. I tried several times, but each time the app would successfully go through :confused:.


Same thing happened to me so I just clicked the back button and opened up a new application and filled it out. I did it a few days ago.

Has anyone heard anything yet?

utedrummer 06-26-2009 07:28 AM


Originally Posted by Spoilers (Post 634359)
I have an interview coming up with AMF in SLC. Does anyone have any specific interview info for that location?

Thx.

I would look into them real good before going to fly there. (start be researching some other threads on here about the problems that AMF especially in SLC has had) Then go talk to the FSDO.

freightdog 06-26-2009 07:59 AM


Originally Posted by utedrummer (Post 635458)
I would look into them real good before going to fly there. (start be researching some other threads on here about the problems that AMF especially in SLC has had) Then go talk to the FSDO.

utedrummer,

Did you fly at AMF? If he goes to the FSDO what do you think they are going to tell him? Don't let your experiences or stories you've heard speak for an entire company.

CloudPilot57 06-26-2009 08:30 AM

Do you guys file a new flight plan each time you fly, or since you do the same route a lot, does the company have candid routes for you to file?

Spoilers 06-26-2009 08:34 AM


Originally Posted by utedrummer (Post 635458)
I would look into them real good before going to fly there. (start be researching some other threads on here about the problems that AMF especially in SLC has had) Then go talk to the FSDO.

I have done my research! I've read various threads on various message boards, I've talked to people that have worked there 5 years ago, 2 years ago, currently work there, and people currently in training. Some of them hated it and left as soon as their contract was up, some of them loved it and stayed for several years. I'm only interviewing in SLC, because it is the closest base to where I live. I can always make a decision after the interview. Also, if you have been out of a job for close to 6 months, you can't be picky and turn down interviews because of something you read on APC where your sisters ex-boyfriends Dad, his cousin's dog walker's brother used to work there back in 1989 and he said that one time in flight, the entire freaking wing fell off.


Originally Posted by FlyingPirate (Post 635442)
Same thing happened to me so I just clicked the back button and opened up a new application and filled it out. I did it a few days ago.

FYI: Ameriflight will be conducting in-person interviews in PHX on July 15, 2009, but you will need an invitation and have been selected for an interview. Also, when I filled out the online application many moons ago, I had the same problems, but one day it worked.

SVA402 06-26-2009 10:08 AM


Originally Posted by Spoilers (Post 635480)
I'm only interviewing in SLC, because it is the closest base to where I live.

Yeah, I was going to say, there is probably no way you could get an SLC base to start with at Ameriflight. Lately they've been hiring to PHX, OAK, and PDX. They seem to be sending a lot to PDX.

Gchamp3 06-26-2009 10:21 AM

Spoilers: Your avatar is awesome.

Sorry to derail the thread. Continue.

Earl81 06-26-2009 12:29 PM

spoiler PM me an I can give you some info on working at amflight.

Spoilers 06-26-2009 02:43 PM


Originally Posted by SVA402 (Post 635531)
Yeah, I was going to say, there is probably no way you could get an SLC base to start with at Ameriflight. Lately they've been hiring to PHX, OAK, and PDX. They seem to be sending a lot to PDX.

Yeah, no hiring into SLC anytime soon. I heard SLC is turbine base only? From what I've been told from the guys in Burbank is they are filling PA-31 for PDX and OAK, but other place might become available, such as PHX. I wouldn't mind any of these places, and I'm willing to move. Gotta be willing to re-locate as a pilot...;)


Originally Posted by Earl81 (Post 635592)
spoiler PM me an I can give you some info on working at amflight.

PM send. Thanks!

Coehill 06-26-2009 04:17 PM

Anybody who has been invited to the PHX interviews care to share what their time is? Just want an idea on whats competitive these days.

utedrummer 06-26-2009 06:14 PM

lol i never dish dirt I didnt dig myself. you can do what you want, i was just letting you know (and I was there the day the wing fell off....seriously!!! it was the 1900 down to SGU)

undflyboy06 06-26-2009 07:30 PM

I was under the impression that we won't be hearing from them for interview slots until the deadline is up on the 7th of July.


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