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SkyPilot3 11-10-2017 12:21 PM

Greetings, long time reader and first time posting on the Ameriflight thred. I just accepted a BE99 home based captain position indoc starts Jan 8th.
Was hoping for any feedback on how the home based positions are working out and also like to hear from anyone else that is scheduled for that class on January 8th. Thanks!

3inthegreen 11-10-2017 01:01 PM

Are there any routes in the system that don't involve any sit time at the outstation?

frmrbuffdrvr 11-10-2017 02:08 PM


Originally Posted by 3inthegreen (Post 2463928)
Are there any routes in the system that don't involve any sit time at the outstation?

Very few. The "glow flight" runs (radioactive pharmaceuticals) are usually just out and back. Unless they are so long that you have to lay over to get rest and avoid 8/24 flight time rules.

Jet757 11-11-2017 06:29 AM

Hey everyone, I'm sorry if this already been asked before, but how much do Ameriflight pilots average per month on the Beech 99? I've seen a figure as high as 80hrs just wanted a second opinion.

Blocku 11-11-2017 08:43 AM


Originally Posted by Jet757 (Post 2464271)
Hey everyone, I'm sorry if this already been asked before, but how much do Ameriflight pilots average per month on the Beech 99? I've seen a figure as high as 80hrs just wanted a second opinion.

That's a bit high. Most people avg about 700 hrs a year. By month that's 58.3

frmrbuffdrvr 11-11-2017 09:32 AM


Originally Posted by Blocku (Post 2464350)
That's a bit high. Most people avg about 700 hrs a year. By month that's 58.3

Yeah, I was gonna say 40-60 per month. There are a few runs that get 80 or more, but not as a fleet wide average.

Javichu 11-11-2017 10:58 AM

I know this is not the place, but I think you guys have a solid aviation background and advice would be very helpful.
I’m at a point where I could keep logging VFR ME (50h/m) and then get a job with a fedex feeder for example, one of those beautiful caravans. Or I could also get with Ameriflight around January/February, ACP with around 900h.
In the past it would be a no brained, turbine multi, but since nowadays it’s not that important, I wouldn’t care if it’s single or multi.
What would make more sense for you all?
Imagine I had both opportunities on my hand, which I don’t obviously.



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PT6 Flyer 11-11-2017 11:18 AM

Javichu,

Are you planning on moving on to the majors? What is your ultimate goal?

Javichu 11-11-2017 11:21 AM

Majors is the goal yes. One never knows of course but that has been my dream for decades


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Javichu 11-13-2017 05:59 AM

Nope? Anybody? :-)

What about junior bases for the beech 99?. After the "floater" period and once you become a restricted captain, are there any bases easier/more difficult to get?

What b99 get to fly more?


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own nav 11-13-2017 06:56 AM


Originally Posted by Javichu (Post 2465198)
Nope? Anybody? :-)

What about junior bases for the beech 99?. After the "floater" period and once you become a restricted captain, are there any bases easier/more difficult to get?

What b99 get to fly more?


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BUF and OMA tend to be junior, not sure what is senior anymore for the BE99.

In reference to your question about the purple tailed caravans... For me personally, I considered it a few years ago, when their pay was significantly better than AMF, but I never could give up the security of my second engine.

When you say multiengine time "doesn't matter anymore," are you saying that based upon major airlines not listing it on their minimums? Seems to me, they left that open for F16 pilots.

No disrespect to my friends flying caravans, but I have never seen any of them move on to anything better than a regional or corporate job directly, and thus many of them stay flying the caravan for a career because they don't want to take the pay cut.

If you go the AMF route, you have career path programs to Allegiant, Frontier, Omni, and now UPS. Plan on at least 3 years.

If your plan is to go to a regional airline once you are ATP eligible, I think you are right, it really doesn't matter how you get there. Regionals aren't to picky lately.

frmrbuffdrvr 11-13-2017 07:13 AM


Originally Posted by own nav (Post 2465227)
If your plan is to go to a regional airline once you are ATP eligible, I think you are right, it really doesn't matter how you get there. Regionals aren't to picky lately.

Keep in mind if you go the ACP route with AMF, the right seat time in the BE99 can't be counted toward your ATP. It's good for getting your 1200 for 135 IFR mins but you can only use PIC time in the 99 toward your 1500 for ATP. If you wind up in an E120, then all of your time (SIC included) will count toward the 1500 because the FO is a required position in the E120.

Javichu 11-13-2017 07:51 AM


Originally Posted by own nav (Post 2465227)
BUF and OMA tend to be junior, not sure what is senior anymore for the BE99.

In reference to your question about the purple tailed caravans... For me personally, I considered it a few years ago, when their pay was significantly better than AMF, but I never could give up the security of my second engine.

When you say multiengine time "doesn't matter anymore," are you saying that based upon major airlines not listing it on their minimums? Seems to me, they left that open for F16 pilots.

No disrespect to my friends flying caravans, but I have never seen any of them move on to anything better than a regional or corporate job directly, and thus many of them stay flying the caravan for a career because they don't want to take the pay cut.

If you go the AMF route, you have career path programs to Allegiant, Frontier, Omni, and now UPS. Plan on at least 3 years.

If your plan is to go to a regional airline once you are ATP eligible, I think you are right, it really doesn't matter how you get there. Regionals aren't to picky lately.


Omaha doesn’t sound too appealing haha but better than PR for sure, I’d take it.

Yeah that’s what I meant by ME being not that important nowadays. Of course it’ll always look better in a resume, no doubt.

I’m not planning on running from any employer at 1501h, if it’s a nice decent job with solid flows. Problem is I don’t trust flows that much (from any airline). But if UPS flow becomes real and solid.....that would be a dream, and worth it. Cargo is the dream here.

Javichu 11-13-2017 07:56 AM


Originally Posted by frmrbuffdrvr (Post 2465239)
Keep in mind if you go the ACP route with AMF, the right seat time in the BE99 can't be counted toward your ATP. It's good for getting your 1200 for 135 IFR mins but you can only use PIC time in the 99 toward your 1500 for ATP. If you wind up in an E120, then all of your time (SIC included) will count toward the 1500 because the FO is a required position in the E120.

I know I know, no complaints there. They give you an opportunity having lower time, so I’d be grateful even if I can’t log it for ATP purposes.

And I’m still on that E120 candidate pool, which would be ideal for me, but No luck yet. I keep requesting updates but they tell me the same, no spots available for me.

On the other hand they show interest for the ACP program. So that’s why I keep asking about those B99 :)

PT6 Flyer 11-13-2017 11:43 AM

Hey Javichu,

Are you considering going from AMF directly to the majors, or is your plan to go from AMF to a regional and then to a major? A lot has been written on how well the AMF-step in this scenario works out. The number of AMF pilots who have gone directly to the majors is quite small. Yes, a move from AMF (or a Caravan) to a regional would be a cut in pay, but this seems to be the best and most common way to get to the majors.

Javichu 11-13-2017 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by PT6 Flyer (Post 2465408)
Hey Javichu,

Are you considering going from AMF directly to the majors, or is your plan to go from AMF to a regional and then to a major? A lot has been written on how well the AMF-step in this scenario works out. The number of AMF pilots who have gone directly to the majors is quite small. Yes, a move from AMF (or a Caravan) to a regional would be a cut in pay, but this seems to be the best and most common way to get to the majors.



I know a regional is a must nowadays, and pay cuts happen often in order to improve long term your quality of life so I'm counting on it.

I'd still go to a regional eventually I guess.

It sucks that 135/121 is not valued the same honestly. I'd rather fly night cargo than a crj with passengers but....


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Cefiro 11-13-2017 05:58 PM

If your goal is UPS, they still strongly prefer 1000 multiengine TPIC. AMF aircraft would obviously count toward this whereas a caravan wouldn't. Just food for thought.

dera 11-13-2017 07:01 PM


Originally Posted by Cefiro (Post 2465600)
If your goal is UPS, they still strongly prefer 1000 multiengine TPIC. AMF aircraft would obviously count toward this whereas a caravan wouldn't. Just food for thought.

They might say TPIC, but they really mean Turbojet PIC.

PT6 Flyer 11-14-2017 05:20 AM

I agree that what the majors want to see is right-seat time in a (regional) jet.

Hey Javichu,

Watch this YouTube video:

“Inside Singapore Airlines”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKuGqKYk3pQ&t=1333s

Go to 29:06 and watch a young lad take his six-month checkride in a 777. Use this for motivation for when you are feeling frustrated. If he can do it then so can you!

Javichu 11-14-2017 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by PT6 Flyer (Post 2465756)
I agree that what the majors want to see is right-seat time in a (regional) jet.

Hey Javichu,

Watch this YouTube video:

“Inside Singapore Airlines”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKuGqKYk3pQ&t=1333s

Go to 29:06 and watch a young lad take his six-month checkride in a 777. Use this for motivation for when you are feeling frustrated. If he can do it then so can you!



Haha my frustration is just with PR :)


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PT6 Flyer 11-15-2017 05:28 AM

Javichu,

What are your main frustrations with PR?

dera 11-15-2017 06:51 AM

I heard it's too hot so ice melts too quickly in his tropical cocktail at the beach!

Jetlife 11-15-2017 07:43 AM


Originally Posted by Javichu (Post 2465409)
I know a regional is a must nowadays, and pay cuts happen often in order to improve long term your quality of life so I'm counting on it.

I'd still go to a regional eventually I guess.

It sucks that 135/121 is not valued the same honestly. I'd rather fly night cargo than a crj with passengers but....


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As a former AMFer and as somebody who made lots of friends at AMF and have watched them go from AMF (2010-2012 alum) to where they are today, I can promise you, you will not go from AMF directly to a legacy, period. The ONLY way you will get a major airline (defined as any airline that generates a billion or more revenue) from AMF is using a preferential hiring agreement. AMF is the first step in a multi step process if you choose to go the AMF route. A regional after AMF is the most likely step, with a ULCC or LCC being slightly likely.

135 is valued, I was hired at a legacy with no 121 time, only 135 time. It just depends on what kind of 135 time. There are two camps, those that have never heard of AMF, or those who know AMF is single pilot, and although FOs are on the Bro, and other aircraft sometimes, the training mentality is single pilot. I have had 4 flying jobs since AMF, with 2 being very large companies and nobody had heard of AMF.

AMF is some of the most challenging flying you can do and collect a paycheck, but it is also some of the most irrelevant flying to 121 that you can possibly do.

Javichu 11-15-2017 08:33 AM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 2466510)
I heard it's too hot so ice melts too quickly in his tropical cocktail at the beach!



******* off :-)


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Javichu 11-15-2017 08:33 AM


Originally Posted by PT6 Flyer (Post 2466459)
Javichu,

What are your main frustrations with PR?



Let's keep it aeronautical haha. It's a long story


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dera 11-15-2017 08:49 AM


Originally Posted by Javichu (Post 2466580)
******* off :-)


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I'll be there next week :D

Javichu 11-15-2017 08:52 AM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 2466596)
I'll be there next week :D



Bring candles and MREs


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dera 11-15-2017 08:55 AM


Originally Posted by Javichu (Post 2466601)
Bring candles and MREs


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We stay in St. Barths when there's no power in SJU :p

AWPILOT 11-18-2017 08:37 PM

Hello
 
Hi guys! When is the next upcoming classes for the FO's???? (with 500TT)
Thank you!

AuzCap 11-19-2017 08:29 AM


Originally Posted by PT6 Flyer (Post 2465756)
I agree that what the majors want to see is right-seat time in a (regional) jet.

Hey Javichu,

Watch this YouTube video:

“Inside Singapore Airlines”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKuGqKYk3pQ&t=1333s

Go to 29:06 and watch a young lad take his six-month checkride in a 777. Use this for motivation for when you are feeling frustrated. If he can do it then so can you!

According to the commentator the Captain has 140,000 flight hours.... Now that's some serious experience... :) Do the math. That means he has been in the air for 5,833 days.. or 16 years straight. Not.

frmrbuffdrvr 11-19-2017 02:29 PM


Originally Posted by AuzCap (Post 2468851)
According to the commentator the Captain has 140,000 flight hours.... Now that's some serious experience... :) Do the math. That means he has been in the air for 5,833 days.. or 16 years straight. Not.

Couldn't happen. That would be 8 hours per day for 48 years straight.

AWPILOT 11-19-2017 05:21 PM

Hello, I applied for FO position and I got an email from HR office, they suppose to call me soon.
Does somebody knows how does an interview look like?

USMCFLYR 11-20-2017 05:27 AM


Originally Posted by AuzCap (Post 2468851)
According to the commentator the Captain has 140,000 flight hours.... Now that's some serious experience... :) Do the math. That means he has been in the air for 5,833 days.. or 16 years straight. Not.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Long_(aviator)

Decimal in the wrong spot :eek:

Jdel 11-21-2017 07:15 PM

Hello, did anyone respond to your thread? I have the video interview with them and wondered the questions? have you done the initial video interview?

Jdel 11-21-2017 07:16 PM


Originally Posted by AWPILOT (Post 2469091)
Hello, I applied for FO position and I got an email from HR office, they suppose to call me soon.
Does somebody knows how does an interview look like?

How was the interview? I have to phone interview also and wondered what kind of questions they ask you?

Jdel 11-21-2017 07:18 PM


Originally Posted by AWPILOT (Post 2468674)
Hi guys! When is the next upcoming classes for the FO's???? (with 500TT)
Thank you!

Did you receive a call or have any info on the phone interview?

AWPILOT 11-22-2017 08:47 AM


Originally Posted by Jdel (Post 2470249)
Did you receive a call or have any info on the phone interview?

Not yet guys

Javichu 11-22-2017 09:17 AM

Do ameriflight pilots use or are they allowed to use foreflight? Or they must use paper plates.

Another question, is there any training contract for the ACP program?


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own nav 11-22-2017 12:28 PM


Originally Posted by Javichu (Post 2470469)
Do ameriflight pilots use or are they allowed to use foreflight? Or they must use paper plates.

Another question, is there any training contract for the ACP program?


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Not approved yet for foreflight, Jeppesen paper charts for now. We keep hearing that the electronic flight bag is in the works.

Javichu 11-22-2017 12:38 PM


Originally Posted by own nav (Post 2470571)
Not approved yet for foreflight, Jeppesen paper charts for now. We keep hearing that the electronic flight bag is in the works.



Yeah that sounds familiar. Lots of in the works in my company haha


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