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FreightDogs 03-20-2018 05:51 AM


Originally Posted by aajones5 (Post 2554454)
Do you happen to know the rough percentage of people that get into the program from those who apply?

I know this was answered already, but I wanted to reiterate that the program is brand new. Went live at the end of December.
The program is based on three years. The first two, you'll achieve the benchmarks. The last year is the UPS mentoring phase. We have three pilots in the program right now and they are already in the mentoring phase since they've been with us and reached those benchmarks already.

Hope that helps!

turbopropwash 03-20-2018 09:19 AM


Originally Posted by FreightDogs (Post 2554651)
I know this was answered already, but I wanted to reiterate that the program is brand new. Went live at the end of December.
The program is based on three years. The first two, you'll achieve the benchmarks. The last year is the UPS mentoring phase. We have three pilots in the program right now and they are already in the mentoring phase since they've been with us and reached those benchmarks already.

Hope that helps!

What are the benchmarks that one has to meet? I am assuming a specific number of flight hours and some type position other than line pilot?

FreightDogs 03-20-2018 09:38 AM


Originally Posted by turbopropwash (Post 2554854)
What are the benchmarks that one has to meet? I am assuming a specific number of flight hours and some type position other than line pilot?

Correct. While in the program, you'll have to get ATP qualified (AMF pays for ATP/CTP course) and type rated with 1,000 hours of Turbine PIC time with us. They also want you to become one of the following - Check Airman, Instructor, or other management role. They also want you to be a mentor to our ACP pilots. In addition, they want you to have leadership training and volunteer service. They'll also give you some reading assignments.

aajones5 03-20-2018 10:33 AM

Will y'all be doing any recruiting events this year?

FreightDogs 03-20-2018 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by aajones5 (Post 2554916)
Will y'all be doing any recruiting events this year?

Yes, we have quite a few lined up and will be adding more as the year progresses.
Women in Aviation
Mt. SAC Career Fair
TCC Aviation Job Fair
Van Nuys Aviation Career Day
ERAU San Diego Career Expo
ASCA Conference
EAA Airventure Oshkosh

https://w3.ameriflight.com/whats-happening/
This site will be updated as we add more.

dera 03-20-2018 04:34 PM


Originally Posted by FreightDogs (Post 2554867)
Correct. While in the program, you'll have to get ATP qualified (AMF pays for ATP/CTP course) and type rated with 1,000 hours of Turbine PIC time with us. They also want you to become one of the following - Check Airman, Instructor, or other management role. They also want you to be a mentor to our ACP pilots. In addition, they want you to have leadership training and volunteer service. They'll also give you some reading assignments.

Let me guess, they also want a 4 year degree?

FreightDogs 03-21-2018 05:26 AM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 2555237)
Let me guess, they also want a 4 year degree?

Not a requirement, but of course they'd like to see one.

frmrbuffdrvr 03-21-2018 08:11 AM


Originally Posted by pilotue (Post 2554586)
If one has anywhere between 1000 and 1200 hours what position would they likely be hired for? This amount of hours is higher than the ACP 800-1000 range, however still below the 135 1200h minimum.

They would still likely come into the ACP program to get the hours to 135 minimums. For our restricted captains, you still need 50 hours minimum in the aircraft before moving to the left seat.

aerobeard 03-21-2018 04:00 PM

How does 600 total time and only a few ME hours work for getting hired?

FreightDogs 03-22-2018 06:17 AM


Originally Posted by aerobeard (Post 2555986)
How does 600 total time and only a few ME hours work for getting hired?

Your TT would have you qualified for an EMB120 First Officer position.
Here's the full list of flight hours required to be hired on for one of those positions:
500 TT, 25 ME, 100 XC (defined as point to point), 25 night, 500 PIC, 75 instrument


Hope that helps!


Dscshooter 03-22-2018 03:03 PM

Hopeful
 
Well im 40 now, about to retire in four more years from my current career, and want to look at flying freight one day. Im asel amel with inst at 150 hrs and working toward my comm and cfi. I decided to buy a 172 and will soon be racking up the next 100 hours to get ready. My instructor back in 2000 told me about Ameriflight and ive been wanting to meet the requirements and apply since. I am also hoping to fly out of CVG IF im lucky enough to get hired. Any pointers from people who have made it and pointers for getting a spot at CVG? I know its a bit premature to ask with four years left until retirement but why not ask and see, right?

I went to ATP back in 2002 for my multi add on. Disappointed they dont have a cfi program now except for the full on atp program.

aerobeard 03-23-2018 04:24 AM

Would the low ME time matter? I have all he other requirements. Also, what are the chances of being PHX based?


Originally Posted by FreightDogs (Post 2556330)
Your TT would have you qualified for an EMB120 First Officer position.
Here's the full list of flight hours required to be hired on for one of those positions:
500 TT, 25 ME, 100 XC (defined as point to point), 25 night, 500 PIC, 75 instrument


Hope that helps!


frmrbuffdrvr 03-23-2018 06:15 PM


Originally Posted by Dscshooter (Post 2556672)
Well im 40 now, about to retire in four more years from my current career, and want to look at flying freight one day. Im asel amel with inst at 150 hrs and working toward my comm and cfi. I decided to buy a 172 and will soon be racking up the next 100 hours to get ready. My instructor back in 2000 told me about Ameriflight and ive been wanting to meet the requirements and apply since. I am also hoping to fly out of CVG IF im lucky enough to get hired. Any pointers from people who have made it and pointers for getting a spot at CVG? I know its a bit premature to ask with four years left until retirement but why not ask and see, right?

I went to ATP back in 2002 for my multi add on. Disappointed they dont have a cfi program now except for the full on atp program.

You probably won't be able to start directly in CVG. Currently the only planes operating out of CVG are BE1900 and SA227, both which require type ratings and roughly 1600-2000 hour TT and 750 ME minimum to get into. So you would either need to get the time some other way or start in the BE99 or right seat in the E120 at another base with us. But as a goal, it is definitely doable.

endlessnight 03-23-2018 07:59 PM


Originally Posted by frmrbuffdrvr (Post 2557503)
You probably won't be able to start directly in CVG. Currently the only planes operating out of CVG are BE1900 and SA227, both which require type ratings and roughly 1600-2000 hour TT and 750 ME minimum to get into. So you would either need to get the time some other way or start in the BE99 or right seat in the E120 at another base with us. But as a goal, it is definitely doable.

Ameriflight isn't really hard up for pilots, I have a lot of hours and they declined to hire me. Not sure exactly why, but I think it was because I wasn't current. Now I'm current IFR 135 in a twin, so don't need a job. I wish them the best though!

SonicFlyer 03-23-2018 09:00 PM

What bases do the EMB120 operate out of? :confused:

Dscshooter 03-24-2018 06:25 AM


Originally Posted by frmrbuffdrvr (Post 2557503)
You probably won't be able to start directly in CVG. Currently the only planes operating out of CVG are BE1900 and SA227, both which require type ratings and roughly 1600-2000 hour TT and 750 ME minimum to get into. So you would either need to get the time some other way or start in the BE99 or right seat in the E120 at another base with us. But as a goal, it is definitely doable.

Thanks so much for the early info! Thats what i needed to know. Im hoping i can stay relatively close to KY during my first gig (wife and kids). Ive always wanted to fly for Ameriflight since my instructor told me a story about new pilots having to take a football helmet with them when flying out of the southwest because of turbulance over the mountains. Now he may have been embellishing a little but it always intrigued me and felt it was a challenge worth taking. Had my eye on working for Ameriflight ever since.

frmrbuffdrvr 03-24-2018 08:29 AM


Originally Posted by sonicflyer (Post 2557560)
what bases do the emb120 operate out of? :confused:

bfi, pdx, slc, bur, phx & bqn

Helios 03-24-2018 12:39 PM

Hi folks,

I am curious if there are any present (or upcoming) PIC openings for the EMB-120 or SA-227 in PHX?

Or perhaps, a floater PIC position in the EMB-120?

Or perhaps in DFW (I have family there).

I am Typed in the Metro and flew for Ameriflight twenty years ago.
I have a bit over 1300 hours of PIC time in each the SA-227, and, in the B737
series, among other various Type Ratings / flight time. I enjoyed my time at Ameriflight in the '90s and am looking at this as a quality of life move; getting hired on by Ameriflight. I have a business jet PIC job that I will be going into training for soon and Ameriflight actually pays substantially more than their offering, although both offer a good quality of life. I am hoping to find something at Ameriflight before the training begins at the other operation.

Thank you for your help!

frmrbuffdrvr 03-24-2018 12:46 PM


Originally Posted by Helios (Post 2557930)
Hi folks,

I am curious if there are any present (or upcoming) PIC openings for the EMB-120 or SA-227 in PHX?

Or perhaps, a floater PIC position in the EMB-120?

Or perhaps in DFW (I have family there).

I am Typed in the Metro and flew for Ameriflight twenty years ago.
I have a bit over 1300 hours of PIC time in each the SA-227, and, in the B737
series, among other various Type Ratings / flight time. I enjoyed my time at Ameriflight in the '90s and am looking at this as a quality of life move; getting hired on by Ameriflight. I have a business jet PIC job that I will be going into training for soon and Ameriflight actually pays substantially more than their offering, although both offer a good quality of life. I am hoping to find something at Ameriflight before the training begins at the other operation.

Thank you for your help!

Ask a recruiter about Home Based Captain.

Helios 03-24-2018 01:00 PM

Thank you Sir,

I am awaiting a reply from a recruiter and thought I might find some info here as well, prior to the recruiter getting back to me.
I forgot to use the term "Home Based Captain" instead of "floater".
Thanks for the reminder, I appreciate it!

aajones5 03-24-2018 05:54 PM

What potential bases are available for someone entering as a first officer?

Bellair 03-24-2018 06:43 PM

Do a little reading and you'll find your answer.

frmrbuffdrvr 03-25-2018 08:36 PM


Originally Posted by aajones5 (Post 2558129)
What potential bases are available for someone entering as a first officer?

Depends on which FO track you are asking about. Which is also dependent on how much flight time you have.

800 TT and up, you are talking about the Accelerated Captain Program (ACP.) For this you would train as FO in a BE99. You would not be assigned an actual base until you were near time to transition to captain and then you would bid for an open spot in the system. Until then we would move you to where you can most effectively gain your required flight time (commiserate with where you stand compared to other FO toward becoming a captain) and we could cover your hotel and per diem (assuming you don't live at one of our bases.)

If you have from 500-700 hours, you would come in as an E120 FO. Then you would be assigned an actual base until you reached 1200 TT and were ready to move to captain in a BE99. Those bases are in a post from a couple of days ago.

SonicFlyer 03-26-2018 09:48 AM

Does anyone have an interview gouge? :confused:

ZippyNH 03-26-2018 10:05 AM


Originally Posted by SonicFlyer (Post 2559070)
Does anyone have an interview gouge? :confused:

Read the last 10-20 pages...
All your answers are there.
First test...can you find the info and comprehend it.
Ameriflight is primarily a single Pilot 135 freight company, with some EMB-120 copilot positions, and a program to get some higher time guys that don't quite meet the FAA/COMPANY MINIMUM for pic up to FAA/company minimums...
Most questions have been answered maybe 3x in the last 3 months...and the company website always lists currently bases that have openings after they have been put out too bid.
Sorry if it comes across harsh, but in 135 you have to be a bit of a self-starter, and know where to find info..
You typically won't be in an office to get spoon-fed....

SonicFlyer 03-26-2018 10:48 AM


Originally Posted by ZippyNH (Post 2559089)
Read the last 10-20 pages...
All your answers are there.
First test...can you find the info and comprehend it.
Ameriflight is primarily a single Pilot 135 freight company, with some EMB-120 copilot positions, and a program to get some higher time guys that don't quite meet the FAA/COMPANY MINIMUM for pic up to FAA/company minimums...
Most questions have been answered maybe 3x in the last 3 months...and the company website always lists currently bases that have openings after they have been put out too bid.
Sorry if it comes across harsh, but in 135 you have to be a bit of a self-starter, and know where to find info..
You typically won't be in an office to get spoon-fed....

That's not helpful at all, and I have already read the last 10-20 pages. I am asking for a specific interview gouge. Nothing more, nothing less.

ZippyNH 03-26-2018 11:16 AM


Originally Posted by SonicFlyer (Post 2559133)
That's not helpful at all, and I have already read the last 10-20 pages. I am asking for a specific interview gouge. Nothing more, nothing less.

Sorry if you didn't figure it out...
There are numerous posts saying it was either a phone or Skype interview, a few basic questions or even just an offer depending on experience.
Ameriflight is mostly a "sink or swim" type of place... you show up, go through class, take a test, and if you pass you stay.
Fail, you are sent packing (extra training might be an option at some levels). Same thing happens a couple times as you progress. You learn, you stay...fail to learn to standard, you are given a ticket home. No real secret.
Know your stuff, be prepared, and all will be good. They are training you to fly 135 alone, at night, often in poor weather, primarily with older equipment. The training is kinda intense, but people with good skills come out better for it. Yes, it kinda "old school" training , not like s summer camp, but the planes are old school....
Yup...I read much of the thread before I went, kinda knew what to expect.
People in class range from first time 135 pilot's, to seasoned freight dogs, to retired 121 guys...

FreightDogs 03-26-2018 11:34 AM


Originally Posted by SonicFlyer (Post 2559070)
Does anyone have an interview gouge? :confused:

Interviewing is relatively simple these days. Once you qualify and apply, a recruiter will call you and verify your application, when you will be available for a training class, and where you are available to go base-wise.
If everything works out and you have 15 minutes to spare for an interview, your phone interview will commence. You'll be asked HR questions about your personal and professional background (what kind of flying you've been doing, employment history, questions to get more details, etc).
There may be a follow up call if after discussion Flight or Recruiting has additional questions.
At that point, your recruiter will get an answer for you and either make you an offer or ask you to get something (more ME, more Instrument, or whatever you are lacking) or give you a flat no if we can't do anything for you.

Hope that helps!

FreightDogs 03-26-2018 11:40 AM


Originally Posted by Helios (Post 2557930)
Hi folks,

I am curious if there are any present (or upcoming) PIC openings for the EMB-120 or SA-227 in PHX?

Or perhaps, a floater PIC position in the EMB-120?

Or perhaps in DFW (I have family there).

I am Typed in the Metro and flew for Ameriflight twenty years ago.
I have a bit over 1300 hours of PIC time in each the SA-227, and, in the B737
series, among other various Type Ratings / flight time. I enjoyed my time at Ameriflight in the '90s and am looking at this as a quality of life move; getting hired on by Ameriflight. I have a business jet PIC job that I will be going into training for soon and Ameriflight actually pays substantially more than their offering, although both offer a good quality of life. I am hoping to find something at Ameriflight before the training begins at the other operation.

Thank you for your help!

We do not have any openings for EMB120s or SA227s in PHX.
We do have BE1900 and SA227 positions open that are technically based at DFW, but you would live at an outstation.

We have Home-Based Captain positions available.
EMB120: Home Based Captain Cargo Pilot - Careers At Ameriflight, LLC
SA227: Home Based Captain Cargo Pilot SA227 Metroliner - Careers At Ameriflight, LLC

That schedule is 14/7/14/14.

Hope that helps! :)

SonicFlyer 03-26-2018 12:10 PM


Originally Posted by FreightDogs (Post 2559179)
Interviewing is relatively simple these days. Once you qualify and apply, a recruiter will call you and verify your application, when you will be available for a training class, and where you are available to go base-wise.
If everything works out and you have 15 minutes to spare for an interview, your phone interview will commence. You'll be asked HR questions about your personal and professional background (what kind of flying you've been doing, employment history, questions to get more details, etc).
There may be a follow up call if after discussion Flight or Recruiting has additional questions.
At that point, your recruiter will get an answer for you and either make you an offer or ask you to get something (more ME, more Instrument, or whatever you are lacking) or give you a flat no if we can't do anything for you.

Hope that helps!

There is no technical interview? :confused:

FreightDogs 03-26-2018 12:59 PM


Originally Posted by SonicFlyer (Post 2559209)
There is no technical interview? :confused:

No reason to be confused. Typically, there aren't any technical questions.
We used to have a list of technical questions, but we typically no longer use them.

Dscshooter 03-26-2018 03:28 PM

Not sure if anyone has asked this but during the FO stage working up to 1200 tt, what is the usual work week sorta speak? Ive noticed some places say things like four days on and four days off.

GraceMonth 03-27-2018 04:44 AM

Is Ameriflight still in partnerships for advancement to Omni? Asking for a friend. If so, what are the requirements and steps to advance? Thanks.

GM

turbopropwash 03-27-2018 07:54 AM

Timeline
 
Anybody know what the training timeline on the 1900 is? Starting class May 7th. I'm just wondering if there is a long wait between systems and OE.

frmrbuffdrvr 03-27-2018 10:57 AM


Originally Posted by Dscshooter (Post 2559358)
Not sure if anyone has asked this but during the FO stage working up to 1200 tt, what is the usual work week sorta speak? Ive noticed some places say things like four days on and four days off.

They fly the regular runs. Most small package runs (UPS, FedEx, DHL) run Monday through Friday or Saturday morning. There are some runs that operate on the weekends for some other customers.

If you are in a time building position, the goal is to build time. If you need time off, we can usually accommodate that. But we want you to get to "captain numbers" as quick as possible.

dash3t 03-27-2018 01:08 PM

Pay Clarification
 

Originally Posted by FreightDogs (Post 2479120)

Be1900 first year salary is $57,000.

But wait... there's more!
The Be1900 also has a bonus of $10,000 after IOE and $10,000 18 months after hire date.
The Be1900 has an annual 20% turbine retention bonus starting at 24 months.
There's also the all-aircraft bonuses, like the Peak to Peak bonus which pays out $10,000 per peak season you fly through.

Hope that helps!

Hey FreightDogs,

I'm trying get a handle on the pay structure so I know what to expect and found this post from you from December. This doesn't line up exactly with what is listed on this site which is this:

Annual Retention Bonus:

EMB120 First Officer: 7%
BE99 Captain: 7%
SA227/BE1900/EMB120 Captain: 10%
Bonus structure is 20% along with 20K peak to peak bonus per year



Can you reconcile these numbers. The APC pay notes seem to imply the Retention bonus is only 10% for the 1900 captain and doesn't mention the 24 month delay and that the Peak to Peak is $20k.

Thanks!

FreightDogs 03-27-2018 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by dash3t (Post 2559972)
Hey FreightDogs,

I'm trying get a handle on the pay structure so I know what to expect and found this post from you from December. This doesn't line up exactly with what is listed on this site which is this:

Annual Retention Bonus:

EMB120 First Officer: 7%
BE99 Captain: 7%
SA227/BE1900/EMB120 Captain: 10%
Bonus structure is 20% along with 20K peak to peak bonus per year



Can you reconcile these numbers. The APC pay notes seem to imply the Retention bonus is only 10% for the 1900 captain and doesn't mention the 24 month delay and that the Peak to Peak is $20k.

Thanks!

It looks like we need to update APC!

Here are the annual retention bonuses:
BE99 Captain - 7%
BE1900 Captain - 20%
SA227 Captain - 20%
EMB120 Captain - 10%
You start getting that at 24 months and annually after.

BE1900 and SA227 have a one time $20k bonus for Captains.
Peak to Peak retention bonus is $20k.

Hope that helps!

PT6 Flyer 03-27-2018 05:24 PM

Hi FreightDogs, I have heard a rumor that the Chieftain runs will be going away soon. Is this true?

endlessnight 03-27-2018 07:18 PM

Darn. And I just checked out in a PA-31

PT6 Flyer 03-28-2018 08:06 AM

EN, they want you and expect you to eventually transition up into a larger airplane. I'm sure they will allow you plenty of time. (And I think it's fair to say that most Chieftain pilots are looking forward to the day when they fly something larger.)

Or do you want to stay in the Chieftain?


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