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Hawaii808 06-12-2021 03:58 PM


Originally Posted by cfii2007 (Post 3245105)
I think they had a 99 opening in Seattle (BFI?)............

I thought the BFI base moved to Spokane a few years ago?

frmrbuffdrvr 06-14-2021 07:43 AM


Originally Posted by Hawaii808 (Post 3249159)
I thought the BFI base moved to Spokane a few years ago?

It did. However, there are still a couple of runs out of Seattle but there is no actual base there anymore. More like an out station than a base.

1200 07-01-2021 08:16 AM

Can anyone comment on what the metro charter life is like.. schedules/flying/QOL/overtime pay/etc? Seems like an amazing job but not much info that I could find compared to the scheduled runs. Thanks!

QRH Bingo 07-01-2021 06:29 PM


Originally Posted by 1200 (Post 3257561)
Can anyone comment on what the metro charter life is like.. schedules/flying/QOL/overtime pay/etc? Seems like an amazing job but not much info that I could find compared to the scheduled runs. Thanks!

2nd hand info it’s a busy department which means they run you ragged, push duty day & flight time limits all week on minimum rest. Could be true; could be BS. But that’s all I got, take that info with a grain of salt.

Hawaii808 07-01-2021 11:51 PM


Originally Posted by frmrbuffdrvr (Post 3249913)
It did. However, there are still a couple of runs out of Seattle but there is no actual base there anymore. More like an out station than a base.

gotcha. I was BFI based about 10 years ago. They used to basically move the whole base to Spokane every peak season. It sucked doing TDY from thanksgiving to Christmas. 😂

Continuingappch 07-02-2021 02:56 AM


Originally Posted by 1200 (Post 3257561)
Can anyone comment on what the metro charter life is like.. schedules/flying/QOL/overtime pay/etc? Seems like an amazing job but not much info that I could find compared to the scheduled runs. Thanks!

You will fly a lot but also get much more hard time off.

FlightLife 07-05-2021 07:05 AM


Originally Posted by Continuingappch (Post 3257914)
You will fly a lot but also get much more hard time off.

Much more hard time off? Isn’t the schedule 3 weeks on/one week off?

Pilatipus 07-05-2021 09:26 AM


Originally Posted by FlightLife (Post 3259340)
Much more hard time off? Isn’t the schedule 3 weeks on/one week off?

Better than 6 days on/one day off I guess.

FlightLife 07-05-2021 10:17 AM


Originally Posted by Pilatipus (Post 3259417)
Better than 6 days on/one day off I guess.

Some may see that as better. Depends on the individual. Compared to the normal 5-day work week with weekends off, the 3/1 schedule comes out to 1 or 2 fewer days off per month. Pros and cons for each.

LeeroyJenkins92 07-24-2021 12:14 PM


Originally Posted by QRH Bingo (Post 3257843)
2nd hand info it’s a busy department which means they run you ragged, push duty day & flight time limits all week on minimum rest. Could be true; could be BS. But that’s all I got, take that info with a grain of salt.

No that’s all pretty much spot on. Schedule just went from 3 weeks on 1 week off to 4 weeks on 1 week off after the charter pilot group was asked to give up our week off through February “to be made up later” and the majority give that proposition a hard no.

1200 08-03-2021 08:24 AM


Originally Posted by LeeroyJenkins92 (Post 3268362)
No that’s all pretty much spot on. Schedule just went from 3 weeks on 1 week off to 4 weeks on 1 week off after the charter pilot group was asked to give up our week off through February “to be made up later” and the majority give that proposition a hard no.

So does that mean a change in pay? Is it a permanent schedule change?

tiger7612 08-23-2021 03:08 PM

Charter QOL
 

Originally Posted by LeeroyJenkins92 (Post 3268362)
No that’s all pretty much spot on. Schedule just went from 3 weeks on 1 week off to 4 weeks on 1 week off after the charter pilot group was asked to give up our week off through February “to be made up later” and the majority give that proposition a hard no.

During your 3/1 or 4/1 schedule are you on the road the whole time or do charter flights usually originate at your base? For a DFW Charter Pilot on the Metro how often would you be at home? Just the one week?

LeeroyJenkins92 08-24-2021 08:49 AM


Originally Posted by 1200 (Post 3272817)
So does that mean a change in pay? Is it a permanent schedule change?

No, and most likely.

MinRest 08-24-2021 10:06 AM

How does this company get ANYONE to agree working 3 weeks on with 1 week off lol.

captive apple 08-24-2021 11:10 AM

Did Ameriflight bid on the Amazon ATRs going to Silver in Fort Worth?

ZippyNH 08-24-2021 03:50 PM


Originally Posted by MinRest (Post 3284288)
How does this company get ANYONE to agree working 3 weeks on with 1 week off lol.

Some people are at AMF for as little time as possible to maximize the time they build to move on/up...some are more long term looking the live in a specific place or situation....
Honestly for some seeking to maximize hours in the minimum time, it might be a plus.
Different strokes for different folks, and remember about 70% (my guess) of the people at AMF are only around for 2-5 years to build time.....
There are assignments that fly under an HOUR a day with maybe 4 hrs and of duty a day total, maybe sleeping in your own bed, or all day home but there are some that are near maximum legal limits...just depends on what people bid.

LeeroyJenkins92 09-11-2021 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by tiger7612 (Post 3283910)
During your 3/1 or 4/1 schedule are you on the road the whole time or do charter flights usually originate at your base? For a DFW Charter Pilot on the Metro how often would you be at home? Just the one week?

If you get sent out on a trip say on a Monday or Tuesday, there’s a good chance they are going to leave you sitting wherever you go trying to sell you and the plane on another trip. I’ve done a trip on a Monday then sat there at the destination all week away from home without a trip, when they could have give me my legal rest, then have me repo to base where I would have been more likely to get a trip and I would have got to see home vs just sitting all week for nothing 1200 nm from home.

But it’s not always like that. Sometimes you will get an out and back trip where you do it then come home and have a couple days at home during the week.

Trips sometimes originate in base sometimes they don’t. During your weeks on you will get to come home for the weekend.

LeeroyJenkins92 09-11-2021 05:58 PM


Originally Posted by ZippyNH (Post 3284474)
Some people are at AMF for as little time as possible to maximize the time they build to move on/up...some are more long term looking the live in a specific place or situation....
Honestly for some seeking to maximize hours in the minimum time, it might be a plus.
Different strokes for different folks, and remember about 70% (my guess) of the people at AMF are only around for 2-5 years to build time.....
There are assignments that fly under an HOUR a day with maybe 4 hrs and of duty a day total, maybe sleeping in your own bed, or all day home but there are some that are near maximum legal limits...just depends on what people bid.

THIS.


Sometimes they will even tell people during Indoc that they (mgmt) realize AMF is a stepping stone job for people to build time and move on. They just ask you to not hire in, stay 5 months then bail on them, they like to see people stay at least a year. Honestly I can’t blame them for that.

As an aside, the Charter life is VERY different than the UPS side of AMF. You have to be pretty thick skinned to do Charter. It’s definitely not for everyone, if you’re a pretty boi, Charter probably isn’t for you.

Gapilot 10-13-2021 06:00 PM

Any update on possible FO position opening up
 
I am curious if anyone here that is still currently working for Ameriflight, know if there anything happening with the First officer position. I understand they are working to bring people up thru their pilot program pathway to UPS and United. I been seeing more spots open for the Captain position on the employment website.

I am keeping an eye out on the website to see any opening for the FO opportunity. Will Ameriflight might possibly expand their FO to more aircraft to keep up with their Captain requirements for the BE-99 and other aircraft?

Thanks for any info.

ZippyNH 10-14-2021 08:09 AM


Originally Posted by Gapilot (Post 3308768)
I am curious if anyone here that is still currently working for Ameriflight, know if there anything happening with the First officer position. I understand they are working to bring people up thru their pilot program pathway to UPS and United. I been seeing more spots open for the Captain position on the employment website.

I am keeping an eye out on the website to see any opening for the FO opportunity. Will Ameriflight might possibly expand their FO to more aircraft to keep up with their Captain requirements for the BE-99 and other aircraft?

Thanks for any info.

Have seen new hire FO's for the metro charter program doing IOE while flying the line...due to long days and higher flight times charter often uses a copilot, since having one allows for longer flights, contributeing to the usability of the plane rather than just an added cost ..the copilots typically build hours to 135 mins, then go to a 99, then a typed plane. Guessing you just need to be looking at the right time too see an opening...let's face, sure there are lots of potential candidates and a stack of resumes.
Working charter is hard work (there are extra bonuses and incentives to off set this partially for captains) but it's faster way to build time and get quality experience with multiple airports. It's a very different job than out and back trips out of a base.
Some love it, some hate it.

QRH Bingo 10-14-2021 12:00 PM


Originally Posted by Gapilot (Post 3308768)
. . . anything happening with the First officer position. . .

I am keeping an eye out on the website to see any opening for the FO opportunity. . . .

You won’t see any job postings on their site for FO’s as they typically have an excess supply of them. You will need to reach out to recruiting directly, attend a job fair or other public event they may be at, or get an internal recommendation from a current employee. You will need to be much more proactive if you are looking for an FO spot than just checking the job listings every day. Good Luck.

frmrbuffdrvr 10-15-2021 09:19 AM


Originally Posted by Gapilot (Post 3308768)
I am curious if anyone here that is still currently working for Ameriflight, know if there anything happening with the First officer position. I understand they are working to bring people up thru their pilot program pathway to UPS and United. I been seeing more spots open for the Captain position on the employment website.

I am keeping an eye out on the website to see any opening for the FO opportunity. Will Ameriflight might possibly expand their FO to more aircraft to keep up with their Captain requirements for the BE-99 and other aircraft?

Thanks for any info.

I am currently at AMF and have had folks I know reach out about FO slots. From what I was told, per our agreements with UPS and United, they have the first dibs on any open FO spots. IF we still have needs, then we can hire off the street. (We have one E120 FO that is a street hire that finished Indoc today and starts aircraft training on Monday.) But these spots are VERY limited and lots of folks looking for them. So like QRH said, you need to reach out and not wait for an open bid -- you won't see one of those.

If you can get to 135 IFR mins (1200 TT, 500 point to point CC, 100 night, 75 Instrument) I can just about guarantee you can get an interview.

CAv8r11 10-19-2021 04:52 AM

For those who fly out of ONT, what is the schedule like these days? Last I heard was M-F departing around 6AM and returning around 6PM. This still the case?

Thanks in advance.

Gapilot 10-21-2021 07:29 AM


Originally Posted by frmrbuffdrvr (Post 3309785)
I am currently at AMF and have had folks I know reach out about FO slots. From what I was told, per our agreements with UPS and United, they have the first dibs on any open FO spots. IF we still have needs, then we can hire off the street. (We have one E120 FO that is a street hire that finished Indoc today and starts aircraft training on Monday.) But these spots are VERY limited and lots of folks looking for them. So like QRH said, you need to reach out and not wait for an open bid -- you won't see one of those.

If you can get to 135 IFR mins (1200 TT, 500 point to point CC, 100 night, 75 Instrument) I can just about guarantee you can get an interview.

Thanks for the info about the FO, it sound like your company got a lot of the UPS and United people in the pipe right now, which will be lot harder to get hired as a street FO. I have looked at the program and what I could understand, it almost you are either working with Ameriflight or you are in a flight school working, toward your hours. I will keep checking the website in hope of getting chance to apply for an open position, as well try to send an updated resume to the recruiter. I will continue to work on getting that IFR captain min. I will keep checking the website and try to network with people that I know that is working at Ameriflight in hope that they could get my name recognized and give me a chance for a call to interview. Also, from what I am reading on your company website it sound like they are looking into the charter side of the business to expand. I wonder if that might open up possible FO spot for that part of the flight operation.

NewbiePilot 12-07-2021 07:04 PM

So how long is it going to take Ameriflight to realize it’s a lot cheaper to bring back the $10,000 peak to peak bonus and keep their current pilots… Rather than offer new hires a $5,000 sign on bonus, in order to replace the pilots they’re losing, and then spend $20,000-$30,000 to train the new hires…

FlightLife 12-08-2021 01:49 PM


Originally Posted by NewbiePilot (Post 3332528)
So how long is it going to take Ameriflight to realize it’s a lot cheaper to bring back the $10,000 peak to peak bonus and keep their current pilots… Rather than offer new hires a $5,000 sign on bonus, in order to replace the pilots they’re losing, and then spend $20,000-$30,000 to train the new hires…

I don’t know. Maybe you should email the CEO and share your business strategies.

QRH Bingo 12-09-2021 06:00 AM


Originally Posted by FlightLife (Post 3333008)
I don’t know. Maybe you should email the CEO and share your business strategies.

As a serious question tho, are they hurting for pilots? Last week I saw 16 vacancies on their site, down to 10 this week. Their business model is that of “we know this is an intro/stepping stone” so pay & QOL isn’t that good for most; it does work for some, however. So it’s kinda built to have a revolving door of pilots.

Continuingappch 12-09-2021 05:44 PM


Originally Posted by QRH Bingo (Post 3333274)
As a serious question tho, are they hurting for pilots? Last week I saw 16 vacancies on their site, down to 10 this week. Their business model is that of “we know this is an intro/stepping stone” so pay & QOL isn’t that good for most; it does work for some, however. So it’s kinda built to have a revolving door of pilots.

I think Newbie is on track but I wouldn't weigh in on specific numbers. Of course AMF doesn't want to be saddled with an inflated payroll when the talent shortage finally ends - you'd think that well-publicized bonuses could be a recruitment and retention tool for the near term. Perhaps peak-to-peak and at even-year anniversaries? I'm sure they're happy to have some attrition but they have got to meet their contracts meanwhile...

Kansaspilot92 12-09-2021 06:10 PM

I’m surprised they can meet the contract requirements right now with all of the maintenance and attrition issues, and every month seems to be worse.

Kansaspilot92 12-10-2021 03:25 PM

https://markets.businessinsider.com/...ons-1031039018

Writing on the wall for anyone considering this company, or already there. And it’s not that they can’t find skilled pilots, it’s that they can’t, or won’t change the toxic areas of the business that cause good pilots and mechanics/dispatchers to leave or look elsewhere.
And Covid just emphasized those things.

If pay and QoL and maintenance was what it should be, AMF would never find itself short of skilled, competent life long employees. I guess robots are easier and cheaper anyway.

TeamSasquatch 12-10-2021 04:57 PM


Originally Posted by Kansaspilot92 (Post 3334013)
https://markets.businessinsider.com/...ons-1031039018

Writing on the wall for anyone considering this company, or already there. And it’s not that they can’t find skilled pilots, it’s that they can’t, or won’t change the toxic areas of the business that cause good pilots and mechanics/dispatchers to leave or look elsewhere.
And Covid just emphasized those things.

If pay and QoL and maintenance was what it should be, AMF would never find itself short of skilled, competent life long employees. I guess robots are easier and cheaper anyway.

Ain’t not way some crooked flying POS 99 is going to be flown by a robot…. I’d like to see it crawl through the hatch to start with 😏

Sidewinder27 12-10-2021 04:58 PM


Originally Posted by LeeroyJenkins92 (Post 3268362)
No that’s all pretty much spot on. Schedule just went from 3 weeks on 1 week off to 4 weeks on 1 week off after the charter pilot group was asked to give up our week off through February “to be made up later” and the majority give that proposition a hard no.

So what type of pilot applies and accepts a job here? In today's wide opening hiring market how does this company fine pilots? 🤔
3 or 4 weeks on and one off is not sustainable.

foxtroutuniform 12-10-2021 06:31 PM


Originally Posted by TeamSasquatch;[url=tel:3334057
3334057[/url]]Ain’t not way some crooked flying POS 99 is going to be flown by a robot…. I’d like to see it crawl through the hatch to start with 😏


Nicely dun sir, nicely dun!

Continuingappch 12-11-2021 05:59 AM


Originally Posted by Sidewinder27 (Post 3334059)
So what type of pilot applies and accepts a job here? In today's wide opening hiring market how does this company fine pilots? 🤔
3 or 4 weeks on and one off is not sustainable.

QOL varies widely according to base & run. If you get a home-every-night lifestyle with weekends off in a town where you have roots, there's not much to complain about. Not everyone wants to wear polyester shirts and commute.

Kansaspilot92 12-11-2021 06:25 AM


Originally Posted by Continuingappch (Post 3334195)
QOL varies widely according to base & run. If you get a home-every-night lifestyle with weekends off in a town where you have roots, there's not much to complain about. Not everyone wants to wear polyester shirts and commute.

Home every night: off duty at 8-9pm and back at 6am next morning

Weekends off: you’ll work Saturday mornings at a lot of bases and show between 6am and 4pm mondays. This is the only time off you’ll get except for your one week of vacation a year unless they have better staffing.

Continuingappch 12-11-2021 08:28 AM


Originally Posted by Kansaspilot92 (Post 3334204)
Home every night: off duty at 8-9pm and back at 6am next morning

Weekends off: you’ll work Saturday mornings at a lot of bases and show between 6am and 4pm mondays. This is the only time off you’ll get except for your one week of vacation a year unless they have better staffing.

Agreed that staffing makes it better for everyone, and it's currently less than one pilot per airplane! I had a run with a 2000 showtime and was done at 0200. As I say it varies widely, just depends.

NewbiePilot 12-11-2021 11:28 AM

Average right now is 5-6 days per week and from 6am to 6pm if you’re on the west coast. 5-6 days per week and 6am to 9pm of you’re on the east coast.

The types of pilots that are here are either here for a pathway program “United or UPS” or they’re here because they don’t have ATP minimums and need a part 135 job before going to the airlines. There are a few “Ameri-lifers” but they are getting more rare because even they’re getting tired of the abuse.

Most recently Ameriflight management decided they’re going to re-write our “Pilots Administrative Guide” to make it more beneficial to them. As we’re not unionized we can’t do anything about that. that being said, if you are a current Ameriflight employee and would like to join the group attempting to form a union please email [email protected]. It’s illegal for them to fire employees trying to unionize. And if a union was able to get better standards of living at Ameriflight then maybe they wouldn’t have an employee shortage right now.

As for the autonomous planes. We still have airplanes without GPS and without Autopilot. Ameriflight would have to invest in a new fleet or finally upgrade their current planes in order to remotely come close to being able to fly with that level of automation. And the MX issues that AMF planes experience nearly daily because of the aging fleet types would make me wonder how long it would take until an AMF automated plane flew into someone’s house. I think their current automation goals are more along the lines of quad copters. And a fully automated B99 is decades away in my opinion. They already fly most of the fleet types as single pilot and I think you’d always need one person in the plane able to take over in an emergency. But maybe I’m just too old to think technology would advance and be trusted so much anytime soon.

As one other person already mentioned, I’m also surprised they haven’t lost more contracts yet because of their pilot shortage and inability to fill some routes right now. I think inevitably that will happen though if they keep losing pilots at the rate they are and don’t have pilots to replace. It’s easy to find qualified FOs right now. But there are 15+ Captain openings right now and growing. Anyone qualified to be a captain at AMF hired off the street is also qualified to work as an FO at the airlines and with the 10s of thousands of dollars of bonuses the airlines are offering right now and all the great benefits, AMF is probably in trouble. The pilot shortage is BACK and the last airline to realize that and adapt will be the first airline to go under.

Gapilot 12-12-2021 08:04 AM

if they are having a high turnover of pilot and they are relying on their pipeline program, why haven’t they tried to bring back their ACP they had about two to three years ago? From what I saw it was a good program that allow them to train pilot to take over the spots that would open up once petiole got the 1500 to go to the airline. I been trying to get on as a first officer off the street and so far no luck yet. I heard they were going to bring more FO on to the metro and Merlin to get them up to the Captain.

I hope that one day I get the call from the HR for a interview for the FO, would love to gain the experience of flying freight and then move over to the 99s fly as a captain.


Originally Posted by NewbiePilot (Post 3334337)
Average right now is 5-6 days per week and from 6am to 6pm if you’re on the west coast. 5-6 days per week and 6am to 9pm of you’re on the east coast.

The types of pilots that are here are either here for a pathway program “United or UPS” or they’re here because they don’t have ATP minimums and need a part 135 job before going to the airlines. There are a few “Ameri-lifers” but they are getting more rare because even they’re getting tired of the abuse.

Most recently Ameriflight management decided they’re going to re-write our “Pilots Administrative Guide” to make it more beneficial to them. As we’re not unionized we can’t do anything about that. that being said, if you are a current Ameriflight employee and would like to join the group attempting to form a union please email [email protected]. It’s illegal for them to fire employees trying to unionize. And if a union was able to get better standards of living at Ameriflight then maybe they wouldn’t have an employee shortage right now.

As for the autonomous planes. We still have airplanes without GPS and without Autopilot. Ameriflight would have to invest in a new fleet or finally upgrade their current planes in order to remotely come close to being able to fly with that level of automation. And the MX issues that AMF planes experience nearly daily because of the aging fleet types would make me wonder how long it would take until an AMF automated plane flew into someone’s house. I think their current automation goals are more along the lines of quad copters. And a fully automated B99 is decades away in my opinion. They already fly most of the fleet types as single pilot and I think you’d always need one person in the plane able to take over in an emergency. But maybe I’m just too old to think technology would advance and be trusted so much anytime soon.

As one other person already mentioned, I’m also surprised they haven’t lost more contracts yet because of their pilot shortage and inability to fill some routes right now. I think inevitably that will happen though if they keep losing pilots at the rate they are and don’t have pilots to replace. It’s easy to find qualified FOs right now. But there are 15+ Captain openings right now and growing. Anyone qualified to be a captain at AMF hired off the street is also qualified to work as an FO at the airlines and with the 10s of thousands of dollars of bonuses the airlines are offering right now and all the great benefits, AMF is probably in trouble. The pilot shortage is BACK and the last airline to realize that and adapt will be the first airline to go under.


Kansaspilot92 12-12-2021 08:43 AM


Originally Posted by Gapilot (Post 3334663)
if they are having a high turnover of pilot and they are relying on their pipeline program, why haven’t they tried to bring back their ACP they had about two to three years ago? From what I saw it was a good program that allow them to train pilot to take over the spots that would open up once petiole got the 1500 to go to the airline. I been trying to get on as a first officer off the street and so far no luck yet. I heard they were going to bring more FO on to the metro and Merlin to get them up to the Captain.

I hope that one day I get the call from the HR for a interview for the FO, would love to gain the experience of flying freight and then move over to the 99s fly as a captain.

You think you would, but you would not. It’s not worth being an FO in one of their metros to fly a poorly maintained 99 at night with no autopilot for years on end. They also have no PDP so you can’t use any of the FO time towards ATP. Go to aerial survey, go to CFI, try to get on with a corporate job or the airlines. Ameriflight is overdue for a fatality and with the way things are headed either a new pilot or maintenance related fatality will happen soon-and you don’t want to be the one in the news.

As for why it hasn’t been brought back? Money. That’s why AMF doesn’t have enough pilots, qualified maintenance people, or basic equipment in the airplanes in 2021. I mean come on, night freight in /A turboprops in 2021? You have to be joking. The current leadership is either disconnected, inept, or doesn’t actually care what makes the current company better. They’re fully focused on charter runs that make a ton of money but eat resources and time and playing catch up, all the while making grand future plans. 4-5 years ago was the sweet spot to join this company, today? No.

This is not to demean the very quality people at Ameriflight who work very hard to meet deadlines, fly safely and do things right. But there are rotten things at Ameriflight that are getting worse and they can’t overcome those as much as they try.

If you are currently at Ameriflight, join the union effort or better-leverage every single connection you have to leave and talk to a lawyer about your training contracts. This job is not worth your personal health or life.

Fr8dawgg 12-12-2021 10:05 AM


Originally Posted by Kansaspilot92 (Post 3334679)
You think you would, but you would not. It’s not worth being an FO in one of their metros to fly a poorly maintained 99 at night with no autopilot for years on end. They also have no PDP so you can’t use any of the FO time towards ATP. Go to aerial survey, go to CFI, try to get on with a corporate job or the airlines. Ameriflight is overdue for a fatality and with the way things are headed either a new pilot or maintenance related fatality will happen soon-and you don’t want to be the one in the news.

As for why it hasn’t been brought back? Money. That’s why AMF doesn’t have enough pilots, qualified maintenance people, or basic equipment in the airplanes in 2021. I mean come on, night freight in /A turboprops in 2021? You have to be joking. The current leadership is either disconnected, inept, or doesn’t actually care what makes the current company better. They’re fully focused on charter runs that make a ton of money but eat resources and time and playing catch up, all the while making grand future plans. 4-5 years ago was the sweet spot to join this company, today? No.

This is not to demean the very quality people at Ameriflight who work very hard to meet deadlines, fly safely and do things right. But there are rotten things at Ameriflight that are getting worse and they can’t overcome those as much as they try.

If you are currently at Ameriflight, join the union effort or better-leverage every single connection you have to leave and talk to a lawyer about your training contracts. This job is not worth your personal health or life.


Well, all I’m gonna say is they better not get too used to those charter flights, we’ve got people dropping like flies too. Because they are tired of being ran ragged, backside of the clock, in planes that are trying to kill them.


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