Originally Posted by Boats and Hos
(Post 3038341)
30,000$ and 18 months. That will be tough to sign. Ameriflight seems like an ok company, and will always survive the ups and downs, but that contract is a bit high.
I am afraid this will start to be a trend again. Next, we will go back to having to pay to work just like in the early 90s. The line was around the block then and probably will be again. If one of the big 4 shut down, that alone is 15,000 pilots. Add to that the massive furloughs that may be coming and man O man. Let’s home things get better before they get worse. |
Originally Posted by Boats and Hos
(Post 3038341)
30,000$ and 18 months. That will be tough to sign. Ameriflight seems like an ok company, and will always survive the ups and downs, but that contract is a bit high.
I am afraid this will start to be a trend again. Next, we will go back to having to pay to work just like in the early 90s. The line was around the block then and probably will be again. If one of the big 4 shut down, that alone is 15,000 pilots. Add to that the massive furloughs that may be coming and man O man. Let’s home things get better before they get worse. |
Originally Posted by ThefiestyGOAT
(Post 3038807)
What contract are you talking about? I searched the thread and the last time other than your mention of a contract was 2009. So, what are you talking about?
$20,000 - $30,000 and 18 - 24 months, depending on aircraft and position. Reduced after 12 months. |
Can you explain the specifics of this new contract please?
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Originally Posted by justfun
(Post 3039321)
Can you explain the specifics of this new contract please?
Type-Rated Captain - $30,000 18 months - Reduced by $10,000 after 12 months EMB-120 First Officer - $30,000 12 months |
Remember that pilot shortage?
Yeah. Me neither. |
Originally Posted by FreightDogs
(Post 3038976)
It's new - starting for the new hires in the May class.
$20,000 - $30,000 and 18 - 24 months, depending on aircraft and position. Reduced after 12 months. |
Originally Posted by Purpleanga
(Post 3041706)
Very classy move with desperate pilots out of a job. Should have made it 40k because why not!
On another note they aren’t the only company making adjustments to the pilot group due to the virus. Heard about a 135 outfit switching from a 8/6 schedule to a mandatory 15/13 schedule indefinitely because of the covid monster they claim. They been itching to make this change months ago but was afraid of massive attrition. However because of the state of the industry now it allowed the perfect opportunity to make the switch. They know the pilot group would have a difficult time jumping ship for something better. Now that’s classy |
Its odd
Because up till about three months ago, things were really good. So, why not a training contract then? Things will turn around but slowly. IMHO, if you need to ask people to sign such things then something may be wrong with your organization. The write up pages back may allude to that. Those contracts are a trap and in some States, may not even be legal but then you have sour grapes with a former employer which is part of that trap. Soon, as I’ve said, companies will make you pay for your own training including room and board. I question companies that take advantage of people during a crisis. It says a lot about a place. Yes, it’s simple, don’t sign it! No more sign on bonuses! Now you get a sign on debit.
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Originally Posted by Boats and Hos
(Post 3042962)
Because up till about three months ago, things were really good. So, why not a training contract then? Things will turn around but slowly. IMHO, if you need to ask people to sign such things then something may be wrong with your organization. The write up pages back may allude to that. Those contracts are a trap and in some States, may not even be legal but then you have sour grapes with a former employer which is part of that trap. Soon, as I’ve said, companies will make you pay for your own training including room and board. I question companies that take advantage of people during a crisis. It says a lot about a place. Yes, it’s simple, don’t sign it! No more sign on bonuses! Now you get a sign on debit.
Simply put it's to limit the people looking for short time jobs till things get "BETTER". For years companies were asking for "gentleman's agreements" saying you would stay a year for an initial training or upgrade... Let's face it, training resources are limited, and many people here and other places are publicly saying they will just pick up a job for a year till they are "called back"... AMF rolled most of the turbine bonuses into the regular pay last year, so other than the "peak to peak" most of us saw the base pay go up, and the company management said it was to ensure it couldn't go away, like a bonus, and the reality is, due to taxes and 401k matches, it was a big plus to make it part of REGULAR pay. Frankly, I don't want a bunch of short-term people causing my current company $$$ issues due to turnover in this environment. yes...a few pages back there are angry people due to the non-typed planes NOT being included in the new bonus program to push people to upgrade when they can.... |
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