Another "best question ever." He, he, joking aside, most bases are minimally staffed right now. I'm sure there's lots of opportunity to expand out there, and AMF has the equipment, but without a few dozen more pilots I don't foresee any new bases in the near future.

@Daytona7KCAB, yep there's a bunch of questions in there I would like to see answers to as well. For now, there are 2 separate pilot groups, so for the moment I don't see it possible to transition from a Wiggins BE99 to an AMF Metro without starting over on you seniority date, but who knows.

1. Ameriflight owns Wiggins. Run separately though. If you want to work at MHT apply to Wiggins solely.

2. Money at Ameriflight goes E120, B1900/Metro, 99/PA31 E120 FO. You can stay at a base and move to other aircraft as long as there is a spot open (and you have been in that airplane for at least 6 months).

3. No degree required and they wouldn't notice anyway

4. Yes you could, not 100% on the process but I believe how well you do in training will reflect if they offer it to you later on.

5. It's unrealistic unless you're an E120 Captain and you accrue some other bonuses, training captain etc. Start is $65K

Hope that helps

No 2 weeks on/off schedule. You can commute, best advice is to make sure there are multiple flights to your base and even better multi carriers that agreements are with

April 3rd class
 

I accepted the April 3rd class date be-99 captain anyone on here attending?

April 3rd Class
 

How did you get them to return a call? I apply, get the standard email followed by another email with info and request to call them. I call multiple times and leave a message with no reply.

I just sent my resume and they called me be persistent they don't want people just to come work for them just to build time

I appreciate the info. I have the ATP minimums and thought AMF would be a good fit for me. I fly to most of their PHX satellite airports on a regular basis. Hopefully I can make contact soon and get into the May class. Good luck!

How is the housing in general at the outstations? I am looking at pdx and the Caribbean.

Wiggins wants 200 multi according to the website. I've only got 50 right now. Any idea how strict they are on that?


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Hi!

Yes, it's possible.
We have a Home-Based position that puts you on 18, off 12. Not exactly 2 week, 2 week, but close!

Hi!

Have you submitted a resume and completed your application?
I can get a recruiter to give you a call back, I would just need your first and last name, so they can look you up in our system.

Thanks!

I sent you a pm with my info

This damn pilot shortage..

Anyone have any gouge on the accelerated captain program?

Specifically, equipment do they start you out on and pay during that time?

I've seen all types used (Pa31, Be99, Sa227, and Be1900). Pay is standard 31k for FOs from what I have seen. Type may depend on location and runs available, the most important thing is to get your 200 SIC/1000TT in a short time so you can become a captain.

I got the be-99 until I reach around 1500 the be-1900 should be available 31k until I have 50 hours in it since I'm already at 1000 then 44k after line check and release as captain

Jeff90, I'm planning to be there for the 99 program April 3.

And yet that's what they will come into class and tell you-I was just there in February. They know that the only reason people come there is to build time. Thats why they have agreement with 3 (two sheety ones and Allegiant) airlines. They know that 3 years is all they're going to get out of people.
I made it through the Metro program but left for another operator (Non-US) simply for the money. The Metro is not a complicated airplane if you can walk and chew gum. What seems to make it so complicated for folks is that there is no automation, no master warning/caution and the props turn the wrong way. If you will just read the study material they provide (not the 3 ring binder dead weight) you will learn all you need to know to be successful. On the other hand-the SOP's for two crew are the worst I have ever seen.
Overall I thought it was going to be a pretty good job. Never could get an answer on home based schedule though. Recruiter told me 2/2. Some guy came in and said 18/12 and yet another person told me 2/1-based on scheduling needs...and the couple of people that are home based all said its a combination of all the above.

I would add nose wheel steering, aileron control, and braking action to your list of things that were hard to adjust to on the Metro. Free turbine engines on our other planes have far less aborted starts as well. There are many points where I would agree that "it's not complicated," but I would definitely advise against letting that allow a complacent attitude going into training, or any day flying it for that matter.

FYI, if you're applying for a FO spot, be VERY aware that unless you go into the E120, your time can NOT be counted towards your ATP.

First time trying this quote thing, we'll see how it goes.

I thought the same thing, and I still haven't found when this reg was passed or approved, but check out: Docket No. FAA-2016-6142, Notice No. 16-02.

It proposes that SICs can log time when not otherwise required if they are part of a SIC PDP, and that time can count towards ATP. I was told that this FO deal is a new program that just started this March, so maybe those laws apply now? Not sure, but I want to do my homework before joining a company.

If it has changed, it would be nice to get a memo. Until then, the memo we have says no, you can't currently count the SIC time (other than the E120) toward your ATP.

Current Ameriflight Pilots
 

I would like some honesty from people that have been hired and started flying for Ameriflight. How do you like it overall? What are your likes and dislikes? What is your schedule like? What do you think of the overall atmosphere within Ameriflight? All the feedback received is much appreciated. Thanks.

I thought all new hires went to the E120? That's all they ever show as hiring on their website.

Hi!
We recently started a program called the Accelerated Captain Program.
We received a waiver from the FAA and can now accept Captains at 1,000TT. The catch is that the pilots have to have 50 hours with us as an FO first. So we'll bring you in as an FO in one of our BE99s until you reach 1,000TT and 50 hours as an AMF FO. As soon as you meet both requirements, we'll shift you over to left seat of the 99.
Those hours as an FO do not count towards your ATP as shoestrings1229 mentioned, but the hours as a Captain after you reach those 2 requirements do. So depending on what your TT is you are looking at 50-200 hours as an FO.
We have those positions listed as First Officer ACP.
Hope that helps!

We also hire folks as FOs in the BE1900 and SA227 in order for them to get to 1200 hours minimum then transition to left seat of the BE99. If they are really sharp, we have taken some up to 1500 hours and then upgraded them straight to the captain seat in the airplane they were an FO in. The first two pilots to do this in the metro just completed their captain check outs in the past couple of weeks and are flying the line as new captains.

Respectfully own_nav, but I would disagree on your implication that we have a high rate of aborted starts in the metro. As long as you ensure that the propellers are on the "start locks", I have seen very few aborted starts and none of the ones I have ever had have been related to the engine being a direct drive. The only aborted start I have had recently (as in, the past couple of years) was in BLI about 3 weeks ago. That was because of a bad ignitor box and so there was no ignition and hence no light off. Nothing to do with it being direct drive.

Your other items of concern I will agree with. We have had a few instances of steering issues lately. The roll rate is a bit slow due to the wing extensions and the ailerons not going all the way to the wing tips. (Though the plane still rolls well enough if you just lead the turn with a bit of rudder.) And the brakes on the "light" airplanes leave something to be desired. Though, again, I have never found it to be much of a problem as the plane slows down pretty well just by going into Beta. Several times I have had tower ask me for a braking report and I have had tell them I didn't know because I never touched the brakes.

Anyone going to the open house in PDX Saturday?

I'm planning on stopping in to check it out as long as my work schedule remains clear.

So, is anything entry-level at AMF commutable? I'm about to start applying w/ 600hrs, but would need to commute from ATL.

You will need to move.

Or apply elsewhere :)
I can do Alaska for 14/14 or whatever the schedule is, or aerial survey for 6 months on the road. But I won't relocate for that.
I just saw some people talking about commuting contracts at AMF so was hoping it would be doable, but I guess not.

Koreans in the right seat and.....who in the left seat? Hearing horrible failure numbers for PIC metro. Ameriflight was always a little rough around the edges but still respectable. Now I don't know.

I lived in South Korea for a few years, I don't mind them :)

Oh, and your recruiters are telling people that they can home-base on a 2/2, but then that becomes 18/12, then maybe 2 and 1. You can't build a base of stable employees by lying to them before they even hit the property. Some of these folks are making important opportunity-cost decisions based on what you tell them during the hiring phase, so tell them the f-ing deal straight up.

I would be just fine with 18/12. If this would be possible with AMF, I would apply right away.

That's what I'm talking about buddy!

It's amazing how many people spend thousands of dollars to learn this trade and then *#^@) about working.... I don't understand when people show no signs of gratefulness for the ability they have so graciously been given. Not everyone has the skills or aptitude to be a pilot. If you want 5 on 2 off, you can have the job I just quit to pursue my dream.

I'm days away from applying to AF and can't wait to fly for food, and if 18/12 is what they are pumping out, Sign me the eff up! (*drops mic*)

Hi, there!

We do have an 18/12 schedule if you are home-based.
But if you live near one of our bases (non home based), it's more like 5/2.

I haven't heard of a 2/2 and hope that none of our recruiters are advertising that.

Let me know if you have any questions! We'd love to have you apply! :)

Best regards!

I can assure you that folks are being told 2/2 applies to home basing. With a recent Metro new-hire I know when the truth came out during training, after some back and forth, it contributed to that person leaving before IOE. I'm also familiar with another older fella who is an attorney and was told that his schedule would be 2/2, so I'm waiting to hear how he takes the deception once it comes to light. Both these guys have other job offers out there with higher base salaries. It was the home basing schedule that enticed them.

With regard to 5/2, those of you with wives or families should know that Ameriflight is in ever hopeful mode with the mention of a full-weekend off. Their customers demand, generally speaking, Saturday delivery, and a schedule of 6/1 is what you get with only one full day off per week. So what 5/2 really means is you get Saturday afternoon off and Monday morning off, but you will usually fly until mid-day Saturday and show for your Monday night too. That maybe more than anything helps the company have high-turnover. Most normal folks find that untenable after a year or so as older people have families that they miss every night and most young guys want a block of time off to travel or whatever. Two of the guys at the base nearest me are in the process of leaving due to never getting the time off they need, one for family issues and one for block time off issues. These are both low-time guys who loved the job for about 6 months but got rapidly disgruntled regarding schedule.

I'd think that if you really want your flight time belly scratched by Ameriflight then just go in with your eyes open and ask some questions regarding schedule and maybe get something in writing.