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own nav 08-14-2017 06:51 PM


Originally Posted by aeroengineer (Post 2410666)
Typically how many months will you have fly right seat to get the 700 or so additional hours to meet the 1200 hour part 135 mins needed to move to the left seat? Thanks

At 40 to 50 hours a month, a little over a year.

calico 08-15-2017 02:48 AM

Are you guys hiring FOs? There were no positions listed on the website.

FreightDogs 08-15-2017 05:15 AM


Originally Posted by frmrbuffdrvr (Post 2410655)
Ok. So it is for the E120 but not the ACP? Or is it for both?

It's both.
The ACP mins are more on everything except where they are the same - ME, PIC, and Instrument.

FreightDogs 08-15-2017 05:19 AM


Originally Posted by aeroengineer (Post 2410666)
Typically how many months will you have fly right seat to get the 700 or so additional hours to meet the 1200 hour part 135 mins needed to move to the left seat? Thanks

Yep, own nav is correct.
For the regular EMB120 First Officers, the time is right around a year.
For the ACP First Officers, the time is around three months.

FreightDogs 08-15-2017 05:22 AM


Originally Posted by calico (Post 2410790)
Are you guys hiring FOs? There were no positions listed on the website.

Hi!

We're not hiring our traditional EMB120 First Officers through at least October (as we are full and have two already scheduled for our September class).
However, we are hiring five ACP First Officers for September and five for October.
It's not listed on our site, but you are welcome to apply for it by filling out a BE99 Captain application. Let me know if you do and I'll tell our recruiters and tell them that you would be an ACP candidate not a Captain candidate.

Hope that helps!

Test Echo 45 08-18-2017 08:08 AM

Flow/Preferential Hiring
 
Good afternoon,
So I've read on the Amerifligjt website of preferential hiring agreements with Frontier, Allegiant, and Omni Air, has anyone ever done this? What is life after Ameriflight? I'm a soon to be retiring army helicopter pilot thinking of switching to airplanes for my next career and just investigating all the options out there. Y'all have a great day.

Test Echo 45 08-23-2017 02:38 PM

So......anyone?

Bellair 08-23-2017 07:03 PM

Does anyone know the details of the flow agreement with Allegiant?

FreightDogs 08-24-2017 06:52 AM


Originally Posted by Test Echo 45 (Post 2412904)
Good afternoon,
So I've read on the Amerifligjt website of preferential hiring agreements with Frontier, Allegiant, and Omni Air, has anyone ever done this? What is life after Ameriflight? I'm a soon to be retiring army helicopter pilot thinking of switching to airplanes for my next career and just investigating all the options out there. Y'all have a great day.

Hi!

I was hoping someone else would chime in, but I'll give it a go!
The agreements are relatively new. We have several pilots in the programs right now. As for those that have already met the requirements and moved through to the airlines: Allegiant = 3, Frontier = 0, Omni = 2.
I've heard good things from the folks that have transferred over. The process itself has gone smoothly so far.

We'd be happy to have you over in the fixed wing side of the industry!

Let us know if you have any other questions!

FreightDogs 08-24-2017 07:12 AM


Originally Posted by Bellair (Post 2418645)
Does anyone know the details of the flow agreement with Allegiant?

Hi!

The agreement with Allegiant ensures pilots entering the program a first officer position with Allegiant upon completion of outlined experience and training requirements (see below).

Once you become an Ameriflight pilot, you may choose to enter the Allegiant program. Allegiant will then actively mentor you. You will be encouraged to participate in Allegiant-sponsored functions such as meet-and-greets with the regional chief pilots, ground school sessions, simulator observations, mentoring opportunities and jumpseating.

The agreement is open to all Ameriflight pilots regardless of seniority, equipment, seat position, or current position within the company. Both new pilots and pilots who currently fly for Ameriflight are eligible and encouraged to participate in the program.

Meets the following requirements:
  • 2,500 hours total hours minimum broken down as follows:1,500 hours to ATP
    § 1,500 hours to ATP
    § A type-rated pilot for Ameriflight with an additional 1,000 hours as PIC for Ameriflight
    § In addition, the Pilot must complete a minimum of 24 months flying the line as a pilot for Ameriflight (i.e. 24 months after completion of OE). This requirement may be waived on a case-by-case basis upon mutual agreement between the Ameriflight Chief Pilot and the Allegiant Chief Pilot (or their designees).
    1) Recommended for the training slot at Allegiant by either the Chief Pilot or Director of Training at Ameriflight.
    2) Has not been the subject of disciplinary action by Ameriflight for any reason during their employment with Ameriflight.
    3) Has no failed check rides within the previous 18 months.
    4) Will be required to complete a pilot application, employment records review pursuant to PRIA, and a pre-employment drug screening as required for employment at Allegiant.
    5) Satisfactorily completes an instrument proficiency validation and a final entry interview administered by Allegiant within 90 days of the anticipated class date.
Hope that helps! Let us know if you have any other questions!

frmrbuffdrvr 08-24-2017 08:30 AM


Originally Posted by FreightDogs (Post 2418830)
Hi!

Once you become an Ameriflight pilot, you may choose to enter the Allegiant program. Allegiant will then actively mentor you. You will be encouraged to participate in Allegiant-sponsored functions such as meet-and-greets with the regional chief pilots, ground school sessions, simulator observations, mentoring opportunities and jumpseating.

The agreement is open to all Ameriflight pilots regardless of seniority, equipment, seat position, or current position within the company. Both new pilots and pilots who currently fly for Ameriflight are eligible and encouraged to participate in the program.

Someone mentioned earlier that we have similar programs with several 121 operators. One caveat. You may only sign up and enter one program. If you change your mind about which program you wish to pursue, you must opt out of the one you are in before you can enter another one. This is a requirement of the operators, not Ameriflight.

Jetlife 08-24-2017 11:51 AM

There have only been 3 that went to Allegiant? That hiring program is like 3 years old almost. Figured more people would go.

FreightDogs 08-24-2017 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Jetlife (Post 2419004)
There have only been 3 that went to Allegiant? That hiring program is like 3 years old almost. Figured more people would go.

It is a little less than a year old at the moment.
January 10th of 2017.

I attached the press release for reference.
We had something before, but it wasn't near as clear or backed.

Jetlife 08-24-2017 12:23 PM


Originally Posted by FreightDogs (Post 2419014)
It is a little less than a year old at the moment.
January 10th of 2017.

I attached the press release for reference.
We had something before, but it wasn't near as clear or backed.

Yea I was referencing the 2014 announcement of an agreement. Glad to see it is taken more seriously now.

FreightDogs 08-24-2017 12:24 PM


Originally Posted by Jetlife (Post 2419023)
Yea I was referencing the 2014 announcement of an agreement. Glad to see it is taken more seriously now.

Me, too!
It wasn't much at all before.

Test Echo 45 08-24-2017 04:42 PM

Gentleman,
Thanks for the detailed replies. I will be retiring from the US Army in 14 months and looking for a new challenge after flying helicopters for the last 19 years. Most of my fellow army aviators are going to the various Rotorcraft Transition Programs offered by several airlines. For me personally, quality of life factors are more important than shiny jets. I have a ranch in central Texas so a job that would not require me to move is high on the list of what I'm looking for. Also, a job that offers a challenge and sense of accomplishment is also high on that list. I have just begun my ASEL add on to my rotorcraft inst/comm. ticket so I hope to finalize a clear path for after retirement in the coming months. Have a great day.

milldog60 08-24-2017 07:11 PM


Originally Posted by FreightDogs (Post 2418830)
Hi!

The agreement with Allegiant ensures pilots entering the program a first officer position with Allegiant upon completion of outlined experience and training requirements (see below).

Once you become an Ameriflight pilot, you may choose to enter the Allegiant program. Allegiant will then actively mentor you. You will be encouraged to participate in Allegiant-sponsored functions such as meet-and-greets with the regional chief pilots, ground school sessions, simulator observations, mentoring opportunities and jumpseating.

The agreement is open to all Ameriflight pilots regardless of seniority, equipment, seat position, or current position within the company. Both new pilots and pilots who currently fly for Ameriflight are eligible and encouraged to participate in the program.

Meets the following requirements:
  • 2,500 hours total hours minimum broken down as follows:1,500 hours to ATP
    § 1,500 hours to ATP
    § A type-rated pilot for Ameriflight with an additional 1,000 hours as PIC for Ameriflight
    § In addition, the Pilot must complete a minimum of 24 months flying the line as a pilot for Ameriflight (i.e. 24 months after completion of OE). This requirement may be waived on a case-by-case basis upon mutual agreement between the Ameriflight Chief Pilot and the Allegiant Chief Pilot (or their designees).
    1) Recommended for the training slot at Allegiant by either the Chief Pilot or Director of Training at Ameriflight.
    2) Has not been the subject of disciplinary action by Ameriflight for any reason during their employment with Ameriflight.
    3) Has no failed check rides within the previous 18 months.
    4) Will be required to complete a pilot application, employment records review pursuant to PRIA, and a pre-employment drug screening as required for employment at Allegiant.
    5) Satisfactorily completes an instrument proficiency validation and a final entry interview administered by Allegiant within 90 days of the anticipated class date.
Hope that helps! Let us know if you have any other questions!



Am I missing something or is true that to get on with Allegiant through this Ameriflight program you'd need 2500 hours tt? What benefit does a pilot have to do this when every other regional will hire at 1500?


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dera 08-24-2017 11:05 PM


Originally Posted by milldog60 (Post 2419256)
Am I missing something or is true that to get on with Allegiant through this Ameriflight program you'd need 2500 hours tt? What benefit does a pilot have to do this when every other regional will hire at 1500?


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I'll give you a hint. Allegiant is a major, not a regional airline.

milldog60 08-25-2017 03:48 AM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 2419335)
I'll give you a hint. Allegiant is a major, not a regional airline.



Lol my bad!!!


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Jetlife 08-25-2017 07:27 AM

Lol.

If you’re asking I’d there is an advantage to going to AMF and doing this program versus going to a regional and just applying to Allegiant, then no there isn’t an advantage really.

FrankAir1 08-27-2017 05:43 AM

All,

Some general questions for you. Looks like I might get a class for an accelerated captain position at AMF. I'm told I'll be a FO on a B99 until I get the min hours (I'm only short the mins by small amount but over on ME time). Location could be anywhere. My research indicates most likely for FO time would be OMA, PDX, PHX, or SLC. Have I got that right? More gouge on locations for FO time?

After I get the min hours for Captain I can bid on any base with B99s. Gouge on those bases if different from ones for FO training? I live near Dallas so am hoping to get that one of course.

Finally am new to 135 ops. Given the potentially very short times you could be based somewhere, where do pilots live when off duty at home base? Also do most locations have housing facilities when laying over not at home base? Just for my planing purposes. All help appreciated!!

FreightDogs 08-29-2017 10:33 AM


Originally Posted by Test Echo 45 (Post 2419173)
Gentleman,
Thanks for the detailed replies. I will be retiring from the US Army in 14 months and looking for a new challenge after flying helicopters for the last 19 years. Most of my fellow army aviators are going to the various Rotorcraft Transition Programs offered by several airlines. For me personally, quality of life factors are more important than shiny jets. I have a ranch in central Texas so a job that would not require me to move is high on the list of what I'm looking for. Also, a job that offers a challenge and sense of accomplishment is also high on that list. I have just begun my ASEL add on to my rotorcraft inst/comm. ticket so I hope to finalize a clear path for after retirement in the coming months. Have a great day.

Awesome to hear!
We have two bases in Texas, so a lot of opportunities in your neck of the woods.
Let us know if you have any questions about working for Ameriflight. We'd be happy to answer them!

dera 08-29-2017 10:42 AM

I'm about a month away from ACP minimums. How actively are you hiring ACPs at the moment, and are the published mins (800TT etc) "competitive" for that position?

FreightDogs 08-29-2017 01:04 PM


Originally Posted by FrankAir1 (Post 2420377)
All,

Some general questions for you. Looks like I might get a class for an accelerated captain position at AMF. I'm told I'll be a FO on a B99 until I get the min hours (I'm only short the mins by small amount but over on ME time). Location could be anywhere. My research indicates most likely for FO time would be OMA, PDX, PHX, or SLC. Have I got that right? More gouge on locations for FO time?

After I get the min hours for Captain I can bid on any base with B99s. Gouge on those bases if different from ones for FO training? I live near Dallas so am hoping to get that one of course.

Finally am new to 135 ops. Given the potentially very short times you could be based somewhere, where do pilots live when off duty at home base? Also do most locations have housing facilities when laying over not at home base? Just for my planing purposes. All help appreciated!!

Hi, there!

Awesome to hear!
So for the first part while you are an ACP FO, you won't have a base (for paperwork reasons your base is our headquarters DFW) and will fly wherever we need you in the system. Typically, the Flight department tries to plan it to where you get what you need to become a Captain with us as fast as possible. For example, if you are in need of night time, we'd have you fly some routes in CVG because it gets darker earlier and you'd get those night hours. If you are just needing the TT, we'd have you fly some high timed routes to get your hours asap. etc. etc. etc.
To sum that up, you don't technically have a base and you fly anywhere we need you, BUT we pay for your travel, housing, per diem, and your normal pay.
As for where we will send you to fly: anywhere in our system where there are 99s. There are a lot of 99 hours to be had in SLC, ABQ, PDX, PHX, and DFW.

After your FO time is up and you become a restricted Captain (at 1,000TT), you select a base. That base becomes your home. We stop paying for your travel, housing, and per diem because you will drive from your house to the airport, fly your route, and drive home. (Should we ask you to do any TDYing, your travel, housing, and per diem will be paid for.) From restricted Captain to unrestricted Captain there's not much of a change. You keep your base and are just able to fly at normal weather mins without mentoring.
Bases you'll likely get depend on our openings at the time. Of course, the more 99s we have at a base, the more likely you are to get that base (since there are so many options). We also have a bid every 90 days, so if you don't immediately get the base you want, you can bid the next time there's an opening.

Your last question. We provide housing when you are away from you home base for more than five hours (even if that's sitting at an outstation). When you are an ACP FO and don't have a base, we provide your housing. Any time you are TDY, we provide your housing. If you are sitting at an outstation (for more than five hours) or have to stay overnight somewhere, we provide your housing. Most of our bases have crew apartment; a hotel will be provided if not.

To sum it all up, while you are an FO, you do not have a base; once you become a restricted Captain, you get a base; once you become an unrestricted full blown normal regular Captain, you get to fly at normal weather mins without the mentoring.

My apologies for the length of this comment.
Hope this helps! Let me know if you have any other questions!

FreightDogs 08-29-2017 01:10 PM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 2421591)
I'm about a month away from ACP minimums. How actively are you hiring ACPs at the moment, and are the published mins (800TT etc) "competitive" for that position?

Hi, there!

We are not limitless on the ACP positions, but we are hiring quite a few. For our September training class, we are able to hire five. For our October training class, we will be hiring four.
Yes, those mins are pretty spot on to what we are hiring at.
However, the more TT, more steam gauge time, and more IFR time, the better.

Hope that helps! Let us know if you have any other questions!

FrankAir1 08-29-2017 04:51 PM

FreightDogs,

That is great information! Much appreciated. Now I have a really good idea of what to expect. Hopefully I will get to meet you at some point soon.

Again, thanks!!

Frank

dera 08-29-2017 07:04 PM


Originally Posted by FreightDogs (Post 2421701)
Hi, there!

We are not limitless on the ACP positions, but we are hiring quite a few. For our September training class, we are able to hire five. For our October training class, we will be hiring four.
Yes, those mins are pretty spot on to what we are hiring at.
However, the more TT, more steam gauge time, and more IFR time, the better.

Hope that helps! Let us know if you have any other questions!

Thanks for the reply! I hope you guys would have a class in January. I'm currently flying Part 135 VFR, and my contract ends mid-November so I would be applying around that time.

pilotlyfe 08-29-2017 08:16 PM

FreightDogs,

Thank you for taking the time to help people with their questions. I am just wondering, how difficult is it for a person to get hired as a BE1900 captain with 135 IFR PIC mins, previous Alaska BE1900 SIC experience and little PIC time? Are the chances pretty low? I am also wondering, what's a day in the life of a pilot? Do you help load and unload?

Again, thank you for taking the time to answer my questions.

pilotlyfe

frmrbuffdrvr 08-30-2017 07:26 AM


Originally Posted by pilotlyfe (Post 2421966)
FreightDogs,

Thank you for taking the time to help people with their questions. I am just wondering, how difficult is it for a person to get hired as a BE1900 captain with 135 IFR PIC mins, previous Alaska BE1900 SIC experience and little PIC time? Are the chances pretty low? I am also wondering, what's a day in the life of a pilot? Do you help load and unload?

Again, thank you for taking the time to answer my questions.

pilotlyfe

When you say you have 135 IFR mins, are you meaning right at (or very near) 1200 TT? If that is the case, you won't get hired directly into the BE1900, even with the SIC time. Usually for a direct hire we are looking for closer to 1800-2000 hours total time. Right at 135 mins you would be looking at starting in a BE99. You would have the opportunity to bid into the 1900 after you get to around 1600 hours. (It is lower for a transition than a direct hire because you would already know our systems and we would have a better idea about your skills and work ethic.)

Westfalia 08-30-2017 11:04 AM


Originally Posted by FreightDogs (Post 2421701)
Hi, there!

We are not limitless on the ACP positions, but we are hiring quite a few. For our September training class, we are able to hire five. For our October training class, we will be hiring four.
Yes, those mins are pretty spot on to what we are hiring at.
However, the more TT, more steam gauge time, and more IFR time, the better.

Hope that helps! Let us know if you have any other questions!

FreightDogs, thank you for all your help in this thread. I have submitted an application after learning from you about the current hiring.

This may have been answered already in the previous 300 pages, but is there anything in particular(regs/procedures) I should be reviewing before starting the interview process?

Definitely appreciate any and all guidance here.

frmrbuffdrvr 08-30-2017 12:16 PM


Originally Posted by Westfalia (Post 2422309)
FreightDogs, thank you for all your help in this thread. I have submitted an application after learning from you about the current hiring.

This may have been answered already in the previous 300 pages, but is there anything in particular(regs/procedures) I should be reviewing before starting the interview process?

Definitely appreciate any and all guidance here.

Be sure you are instrument current, preferable with analog gauges. Do a review of FAR 135, though most of the applicable portions will also be covered in class. Other than that, just review basic aviation stuff such as weather, aerodynamics, etc.

We will cover company procedures in class and there really isn't any way to prep for those until you get here and get your GOM and other manuals.

Westfalia 08-30-2017 04:18 PM

Excellent, will do. Thank you.

FreightDogs 08-31-2017 09:09 AM


Originally Posted by FrankAir1 (Post 2421854)
FreightDogs,

That is great information! Much appreciated. Now I have a really good idea of what to expect. Hopefully I will get to meet you at some point soon.

Again, thanks!!

Frank

Would be happy to meet you!
Looking forward to it.

FreightDogs 08-31-2017 09:10 AM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 2421942)
Thanks for the reply! I hope you guys would have a class in January. I'm currently flying Part 135 VFR, and my contract ends mid-November so I would be applying around that time.

We'll be having a January class! Hoping to have you in it.
In the mean time, let us know if you have any questions about joining!

dera 08-31-2017 09:14 AM


Originally Posted by FreightDogs (Post 2422826)
We'll be having a January class! Hoping to have you in it.
In the mean time, let us know if you have any questions about joining!

That would be perfect! When would be the best time to apply for that? I'm at just over 700hrs now and flying Part 135 VFR every day, so I'm about a month away from the mins. Do you take applications with "projected" hours?

FreightDogs 08-31-2017 09:22 AM


Originally Posted by pilotlyfe (Post 2421966)
FreightDogs,

Thank you for taking the time to help people with their questions. I am just wondering, how difficult is it for a person to get hired as a BE1900 captain with 135 IFR PIC mins, previous Alaska BE1900 SIC experience and little PIC time? Are the chances pretty low? I am also wondering, what's a day in the life of a pilot? Do you help load and unload?

Again, thank you for taking the time to answer my questions.

pilotlyfe

Hi, pilotlyfe!

Here are the times we look at for competitive 1900 Captains:
  • 1,800 TT, 250 ME, 500 XC (defined as point to point), 100 night, 1,000 PIC, 100 instrument, 100 Turbine, 121 or 135 experience
If you are right at 135 mins, you'd be looking at a PA-31 or BE99.
Transition from there is relatively easy as you quickly gain the types of hours needed for the 1900.

A day in the life: Typically, the schedule is Monday through Friday, morning to evening. You'll leave out early morning, fly your legs, sit a bit in the middle of the day, and fly your legs home. Sleep at home each night.

Our pilots average 60 hours per month. The number of hours you fly per month is based on location and aircraft.

Loading and unloading. Great question. If you are flying a FedEx route, you will not need to do any loading or unloading. They will not let you. As for UPS and DHL, you likely will. You won't have to do the whole thing as there will be a driver there to do it. But assistance might be needed. We are working hard with our customers to make it to where our pilots do not have to load or unload at all. Nothing set in stone yet, but our ultimate goal is that you will not have to help.

Hope that helps!

Javichu 08-31-2017 09:47 AM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 2422829)
That would be perfect! When would be the best time to apply for that? I'm at just over 700hrs now and flying Part 135 VFR every day, so I'm about a month away from the mins. Do you take applications with "projected" hours?



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FreightDogs 08-31-2017 01:09 PM


Originally Posted by Westfalia (Post 2422309)
FreightDogs, thank you for all your help in this thread. I have submitted an application after learning from you about the current hiring.

This may have been answered already in the previous 300 pages, but is there anything in particular(regs/procedures) I should be reviewing before starting the interview process?

Definitely appreciate any and all guidance here.

Hi, Westfalia!

I'm happy to hear you've applied and that I've been of help!
Nothing in particular. The first part of the interview is all about you and your experiences (your times, what you've been doing, your currency, etc). The second part is a video interview where you answer six questions (including one where you brief an approach plate). This second part is more related to flying and what you would do in certain situations.

We mainly want to know that you know how to fly, that you are safe, and where you are at time wise. We have training to teach you aircraft specific stuff and how Ameriflight flies!

If you do get hired, you'll receive study material ahead of time to be prepared for training.

Hope that helps!

(Just responded to a private message from you, as well.)

FreightDogs 08-31-2017 01:13 PM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 2422829)
That would be perfect! When would be the best time to apply for that? I'm at just over 700hrs now and flying Part 135 VFR every day, so I'm about a month away from the mins. Do you take applications with "projected" hours?

At over 700 TT, you can apply now!
We don't really take projected hour applications, but there should be a spot in the application to make notes and that's where you can put your projections and more importantly that you are flying a certain number of hours per month consistently.

Since you are over 700, we'll probably be able to at least start a conversation with you. At the very least, we'll get you in our system where we can view you at anytime as a viable candidate (and you can make updates to your times/application from there, too). We are planning on putting four more ACPs in the October class, so maybe you can make it for that!

dera 08-31-2017 03:05 PM


Originally Posted by Javichu (Post 2422857)
Do you need a classmate?🤣


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Sure, you game for a January class? :D
(assuming we get the job of course...)


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