Question reguarding hours
 

What places (if any) would hire a guy with 360tt and 60 ME? Thanks guys, and yes, this is me.

Probably any flight school if you have your CFI. But since you posted in the 135 section are you looking for any job (meaning regional) or part 135 specifically??

Not any 135 ops' I can be sure about that. There might be someone looking for an SIC in single-pilot aircraft to satisfy an insurance requirement, but that'd be it. I'd say keep building time and contacts, but if you got a CFI, USE IT!!!!

well, the problem is there is no where i can get my CFI without quitting my job and the 6K for everything is a bit pricey.

any job, not just 135

it would probably be better to post your question in the regional forum? i believe some are hiring with low times but not sure which ones. you need 1200TT to get on with a 135 company as PIC. Some 135 companies do hire SIC's but not very often.

Well you might consider banner tow if you're in a coastal/scenic area where there some ops if the regionals aren't an option. Honestly you have a shot with your times of getting the job I'd say with them.

Comuter/Regionals are hiring at or around those hours.
I belive most 135 cargo outfits hire SIC time builders these days.

AirNet
Central air

are a couple that I can think of right now.

Other than that I imagine that your other options would be 135 VFR tour operators(grand canyon), banner towers, and Parachute jumpers. As you can imagine these gigs are seasonal and regional, I guess it all depends on where you live or how flexible you are to go where you can get a job.

GL,

I know what 135 PIC mins are, I should have specified that in the 135 world I was looking for SIC positions. I am in south central Michigan, so not much banner towing or anything.

Well in that area, you're pretty much going for a local operator. Superior out of LAN, Central Air out of GRR. Pontiac has a few operators also. I don't know if any of those use SIC's though. The op's out of pontiac do, as they fly some Falcons, lears, and a few other random planes. I know a guy that works for IFL at pontiac, and he's going to be leaving. He started there after he finished up at ATP.

Yeah, I may be able to push american flyers for my cfi/i if it is only 3K. everywhere else is saying 6k or 7k. it appears my flight school I go to may be closing.

You're in south central michigan? I was able to get my CFI at Solo Aviation (KARB) for about 2 grand. If you're interested, I can hook you up with my old skydiving gig. It's a bit of a drive (Angola, IN, on I69 about 5 miles south of the indiana border), the pay sucks, but you'll build high performance time and experience.

2 grand at solo huh? I'll give them a call. They dont list an prices on their website. I'll call em'.

The Arrow is about $115 an hour, and I did about 12 hours in it. The rest was spent on ground training, the more you self study, the cheaper it will be. Good luck. I'd recommend getting in touch with Don.

Pretty much all the ondemad freight operators are hiring low time co-pilots for 135. There's 2 operators out of PTK that hire low times, and at least 3 out of YIP. Most 135 isn't single pilot, most require 2 pilots and with the regionals lowering their requirements the on-demand operators have also been forced to hire low timers. Though both companies out of PTK have been hiring low timers for years. An internal rec goes ALONG way though.

PTK Pilots
 

I know some of the guys flying out of PTK and their recent F/O class had one guy with a total time of only 207 or something and another guy with only 4.5h of multi. The bad part is the company isn't looking to hire any new guys for a while. But the possibilities are out there, don't give up and be PERSISTENT! Desire goes a long way and so does knowing somebody on the inside. Good luck!

Check out Compass Airlines out of DTW, they're a new start up and need pilots. I know Mesaba has hired pilots as low as 270tt and 70multi, too.

As for Solo Aviation... haven't heard good things. Anyplace will get you out quick and cheap if you do your own studying, and that's a lot of dedication for a check ride that almost everyone fails on the 1st try and 70% of them fail on their 2nd try also. Don't most applications ask if you've ever failed a check ride? Food for thought...

Fill out an application with airnet and update it monthly. They'll pay you to build your time but it might be a while before you get a look. In the meantime flight instructing isn't too bad and I don't think that everyone fails their checkride but I'm not gonna lie it does happen more often than any other. Theres also aerial mapping. Try Northern States Aviation or Rochester Aerial Mapping. Flying jumpers is ok I did it for a while. The airplanes are usually pretty marginal and the jumpers tend not to care much for pilots or the law but maybe others have different experiences. The best advice is just keep flying whenever you can and don't pay for anything that isn't going to get you a rating.

Air Cargo Carriers might hire you with those times.

I know a company in NW Ohio that is putting on a ground school Mar 3. Your times, as long as you have comm IFR Multi will do.

Traffic watch !! I had a student that I took private through commercial multi, and then he took a traffic watch job. He flew 6 to 8 hours per day, and got his ATP about 14 months later. He never got a CFI rating. He's an airline captain now. Hope this helps. Good luck.

How hard is it to find a traffic watch job? And Where?

Contact Exodus Air in Lancaster, CA (fox field - KWJF). They fly for a couple of different radio stations throughout the LA area. GREAT experience in congested area. Forget the owners name, but he is a serious Christian, FYI (thats a good thing as far as i'm concerned). Crew is changing all the time as folks move on to better jobs. Hope this helps. Good luck.

I would advise that you can send your resume out to the regionals before you start your CFI and see if any bite. As for your CFI Kalamazoo has two places: Great Lakes Aviation and Fly Kalamazoo (operated as a club their 172 is instructed by Matt George past CRJ200 FO for ACA)

Skydiving gig in south central mi
 

There's a skydiving outfit in Tecumseh MI, at meyers divers field that takes low time guys to fly a 182.

As long as you not too heavy! I was told to look elsewhere because I was too heavy, and at the time I only weighed about 210lbs!

Scenic and Grand Canyon airlines in Vegas will look at you.

American Winds Flight Academy in Akron, Ohio will give you free CFI and II training in return for a 1 year contract agreement. Check them out, www.teachmetofly.com

really? Whats their pay like?

NO315, I also have been researching into low-time SIC positions with 135 operators. I just recently got my private ticket, and am working on instruments in the mid-michigan area. Hopefully following up with commerical and CFI's then ME. Like teaching, and intend to instruct, but also very intrested in getting into a 135 operation and building ME time. I've looked into central airsouthwest, and airnet, would like more info regarding the PTK DTW operators. I know central airsouthwest unfortunately lost two planes this year. I don't think i have PM yet, (new member) but feel free to email me [email protected]. I'm from the same general area as you with the intent to travel a similar path.

Good luck

Wow, you guys are all so nice! Maybe somewhere without spell check!:D

But really, go get more time. Would you consider flying in Asia? Might be the best bet in the near term. Industry will be bad in the US for 5+ years IMHO.

If you want to be a professional pilot there is a world out there. It isn't the USA.
Middle-East will hire with no experience, as will the Far-East including India. You will have to sign a lengthy contract, sometimes as much as 10 years. But they pay for all training (housing included) and you'll end up on an Airbus or Boeing and be making good money, seeing the world and having a nice type in an airplane that will be around for many years to come.

But as always, most want a job within 150 miles from Mommy/ Daddy and the dog and are not willing to take a risk. If I would have had that chance when I started in '92 I would be all over that. I had/ have good times with what I am doing now, but sometimes I just still wonder. What if.......:confused:

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