slipped

Let me ask this, does anybody, or, is there any point to takin the 121 atp ride after you take a 135 ride?
Would you need to take a 121 written?
Would you get another rating?

EX: I have 1200 hrs ect.
I go to my fav cargo company(you might know the one) I log another 300 hours, can I know retake the 121 written and then another practical exam?
Am I not an ATP as a line captain for a 135?

FlyingPirate

whats the question?

slipped

The question is does anybody do this?
And is there a point?

FlyingPirate

It seems like a good idea. Take the written. Do the 135 training and checkride then take the 121 checkride with the FAA. As long as you have all the required training I do not see a problem with it. I do not know of anyone who has done this but it seems like you could benefit from it

slipped

I agree. hence the thread, I am surprised its not more commonplace.

FR8DWGIE

I think you may be a little confused. Passing a 135 PIC ride does not make you an ATP. I passed several 135 rides before getting my ATP. Also, if you are already familiar with 135 operations why would you go take a 121 ATP written? An ATP is an ATP there is nothing on my certificate that makes it a 135 ATP or a 121 ATP.

Twin Wasp

There is no 135 ATP checkride or 121 ATP checkride. There is an ATP checkride. Part 61.157 says a 135.293 and .297 checkride will serve as an ATP checkride so IF you have passed the written and IF the check airman is a designee or a Fed is observing the ride, you could get the ATP. If the plane is turbojet, has ten or more pax seats or is a multi used in commuter ops, you'll need to get the ATP but there's no flat out requirement for a 135 PIC to have an ATP.

61.157 also says a 121.441 ride will serve as an ATP ride so if you don't have the ATP at that time and it's a PIC ride you'll need to have a written (doesn't matter which one) and the company will have to make sure the designee can also do the ATP. I think most can but there might be some ACDs who can't. Or they can get you a Fed. If it's an SIC ride, at least for now, there's no requirement for the SIC to have an ATP. (Skipping the IRP.)

hawkesaurus

Does your certificate say commercial pilot or ATP?

slipped

FR8, Im not confused, I just dont know, thats why I started the thread. Thanks for your reply, it cleared most of it up. Now, more questions.

1. Do I have to pass a 135/121 ATP written to do my 135 PIC ride?
2. Is the ATP/135PIC ride tough? whats it like
3. I wonder if people fail this ride ever

slipped

Ok ill bite; commercial why?