Is on demand freight making a slow come back?
#11
Hi!
It DEFINITELY is making a slow comeback, but it will never be what it once was, due to the contraction of auto sales in N. AMerica, AND because ALL of the N. American manufacturers are getting more efficient, hence needing less flying.
THis process has been ongoing since about 2000, I believe. The new cars that are getting more and more electric (just like the -787) will require less and less parts, both in manufacture, and for repairs.
cliff
NBO
PS-The falcon flying for USAJ is picking up. I think they still only have 1 flying, though.
It DEFINITELY is making a slow comeback, but it will never be what it once was, due to the contraction of auto sales in N. AMerica, AND because ALL of the N. American manufacturers are getting more efficient, hence needing less flying.
THis process has been ongoing since about 2000, I believe. The new cars that are getting more and more electric (just like the -787) will require less and less parts, both in manufacture, and for repairs.
cliff
NBO
PS-The falcon flying for USAJ is picking up. I think they still only have 1 flying, though.
#12
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MKE...
Air Cargo Carriers (Best Shorts Operator FYI): SH3-30, SD3-60
They may be the "best" in scheduled shorts operation, but I know many former on-demand pilots from there that will agree ACC is border line retarded when it comes to charter. The best on-demand shorts operator was by far Alliance. Too bad they are in hibernation for now and not available. Update your availability list.
P.S.
Just wondering, are you actually making any money as a broker?
MKE...
Air Cargo Carriers (Best Shorts Operator FYI): SH3-30, SD3-60
They may be the "best" in scheduled shorts operation, but I know many former on-demand pilots from there that will agree ACC is border line retarded when it comes to charter. The best on-demand shorts operator was by far Alliance. Too bad they are in hibernation for now and not available. Update your availability list.
P.S.
Just wondering, are you actually making any money as a broker?
#13
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Joined APC: Apr 2007
Posts: 867
Seems like the constant is blood/organ donor transport. Most pax calls are people who think they are buying 1 seat.
"What do you mean it's $20k to go to Montana?!?"
"Well, it's actually $40k since you want to get picked up a month later."
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"What do you mean it's $20k to go to Montana?!?"
"Well, it's actually $40k since you want to get picked up a month later."
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#14
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Joined APC: Jan 2009
Posts: 26
#15
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Joined APC: May 2006
Position: Skywest poolie
Posts: 41
Availability...
PTK...
Royal Air Show: C310, C402 EMB110, LR2X/LR35, DA20
IFL: BAMF DA20 (TFE Falcon, that's why it's BAMF), CV580/5800, B721
YIP...
Kalitta: LR2X/LR3X, DA20, DC-9-15, B722
Ameristar: LR24, DA20, DC-9-10
Active: Hell I hear they have a Falcon crewed one week and the next they don't. Regardless I don't call them for a Falcon. Kalitta is cheaper in YIP. I know they have a Stretch 9-30 up there....atpcliff is the one I get for availablity.
OH22
Priority Air Charter: C208B, PC-12
MKE...
Air Cargo Carriers (Best Shorts Operator FYI): SH3-30, SD3-60
Freight Runners: C206, BE99, B1900C
AWM...
McNeely: BE58, C208B, SW3, SH3-30
ELP...
Royal: LR25
Sierra West: SW3, LR35, DA20 (Not Crewed)
ADS/DTO...
Ameristar: LR25, DA20, DC-9-10
Alliance: DA20, SD3-60
MFE/PIL
IFL: Falcon 20, CV580/5800
Ameriflight and Airnet are all nationwide
Ameriflight: PA31, EMB120, SW3
AirnetL BE58, C208B, LR35
And that's the current list, ladies and gentleman. Cherry is out of the game now too...but they have been for awhile.
PTK...
Royal Air Show: C310, C402 EMB110, LR2X/LR35, DA20
IFL: BAMF DA20 (TFE Falcon, that's why it's BAMF), CV580/5800, B721
YIP...
Kalitta: LR2X/LR3X, DA20, DC-9-15, B722
Ameristar: LR24, DA20, DC-9-10
Active: Hell I hear they have a Falcon crewed one week and the next they don't. Regardless I don't call them for a Falcon. Kalitta is cheaper in YIP. I know they have a Stretch 9-30 up there....atpcliff is the one I get for availablity.
OH22
Priority Air Charter: C208B, PC-12
MKE...
Air Cargo Carriers (Best Shorts Operator FYI): SH3-30, SD3-60
Freight Runners: C206, BE99, B1900C
AWM...
McNeely: BE58, C208B, SW3, SH3-30
ELP...
Royal: LR25
Sierra West: SW3, LR35, DA20 (Not Crewed)
ADS/DTO...
Ameristar: LR25, DA20, DC-9-10
Alliance: DA20, SD3-60
MFE/PIL
IFL: Falcon 20, CV580/5800
Ameriflight and Airnet are all nationwide
Ameriflight: PA31, EMB120, SW3
AirnetL BE58, C208B, LR35
And that's the current list, ladies and gentleman. Cherry is out of the game now too...but they have been for awhile.
Cherry is? I think they're on a trip right now....
#17
#18
Because they are cheaper to operate than a Falcon 10 or 20 and the Lear 35 has an awesome range on it getting you where you need to be without makining a fuel stop. The 35 is more expensive to operate of the Lear 2X series, don't forget that. I don't know how many trips I lost at Grand Aire because we had the 35 and Kalitta has all the Lear 2X's....now Kalitta owns the old 35. lol
#19
Availability...
PTK...
Royal Air Show: C310, C402 EMB110, LR2X/LR35, DA20
IFL: BAMF DA20 (TFE Falcon, that's why it's BAMF), CV580/5800, B721
YIP...
Kalitta: LR2X/LR3X, DA20, DC-9-15, B722
Ameristar: LR24, DA20, DC-9-10
Active: Hell I hear they have a Falcon crewed one week and the next they don't. Regardless I don't call them for a Falcon. Kalitta is cheaper in YIP. I know they have a Stretch 9-30 up there....atpcliff is the one I get for availablity.
OH22
Priority Air Charter: C208B, PC-12
MKE...
Air Cargo Carriers (Best Shorts Operator FYI): SH3-30, SD3-60
Freight Runners: C206, BE99, B1900C
AWM...
McNeely: BE58, C208B, SW3, SH3-30
ELP...
Royal: LR25
Sierra West: SW3, LR35, DA20 (Not Crewed)
ADS/DTO...
Ameristar: LR25, DA20, DC-9-10
Alliance: DA20, SD3-60
MFE/PIL
IFL: Falcon 20, CV580/5800
Ameriflight and Airnet are all nationwide
Ameriflight: PA31, EMB120, SW3
AirnetL BE58, C208B, LR35
And that's the current list, ladies and gentleman. Cherry is out of the game now too...but they have been for awhile.
PTK...
Royal Air Show: C310, C402 EMB110, LR2X/LR35, DA20
IFL: BAMF DA20 (TFE Falcon, that's why it's BAMF), CV580/5800, B721
YIP...
Kalitta: LR2X/LR3X, DA20, DC-9-15, B722
Ameristar: LR24, DA20, DC-9-10
Active: Hell I hear they have a Falcon crewed one week and the next they don't. Regardless I don't call them for a Falcon. Kalitta is cheaper in YIP. I know they have a Stretch 9-30 up there....atpcliff is the one I get for availablity.
OH22
Priority Air Charter: C208B, PC-12
MKE...
Air Cargo Carriers (Best Shorts Operator FYI): SH3-30, SD3-60
Freight Runners: C206, BE99, B1900C
AWM...
McNeely: BE58, C208B, SW3, SH3-30
ELP...
Royal: LR25
Sierra West: SW3, LR35, DA20 (Not Crewed)
ADS/DTO...
Ameristar: LR25, DA20, DC-9-10
Alliance: DA20, SD3-60
MFE/PIL
IFL: Falcon 20, CV580/5800
Ameriflight and Airnet are all nationwide
Ameriflight: PA31, EMB120, SW3
AirnetL BE58, C208B, LR35
And that's the current list, ladies and gentleman. Cherry is out of the game now too...but they have been for awhile.
I'd like to add one to your list. Miller Aviation They are out of Portland, IN. C310's, C404 for freight, C310, C421 for pax. I used to work there, not a bad place at all. Does a mix of on-demand, and nightly check-runs(obviously that's hurting as well) We've subchartered for Royal Air and Active(If I remember right, Active runs a bid-board?), as well as a few others.
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