Has this ever happened to you?
05-25-2009, 05:06 PM
#11
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2008
Position: 747 Captain (Ret,)
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Originally Posted by SecondLife
I don't fly 135 (yet) but have my own airplane and sometimes fly in poor weather to maintain my instrument currency. Last Oct I went up on a day much like you describe - rain, mist, 800 ft ceiling plus a 60 kt wind at 3000 ft. Bumpy ride.
I was up at Frederick, MD shooting the ILS. Inside the OM on glideslope but the loc shows me drifting to the left. I turn to the right. Knowing that the wind is from the right this makes sense. However the loc needle shows me going faster to the left. I turn more to the right. Not long after the needle goes to full deflection and I execute a missed. This made no sense to me. It was almost like the needle had reverse sensing.
I went around and shot the approach again without a problem. When I got home I looked at my course on Flight Aware and it showed me right of the localizer turning right. I still have no idea what happened but it troubles me to this day.
I was up at Frederick, MD shooting the ILS. Inside the OM on glideslope but the loc shows me drifting to the left. I turn to the right. Knowing that the wind is from the right this makes sense. However the loc needle shows me going faster to the left. I turn more to the right. Not long after the needle goes to full deflection and I execute a missed. This made no sense to me. It was almost like the needle had reverse sensing.
I went around and shot the approach again without a problem. When I got home I looked at my course on Flight Aware and it showed me right of the localizer turning right. I still have no idea what happened but it troubles me to this day.
Joe
05-29-2009, 02:08 AM
#12
alchemist
Joined APC: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,089
Originally Posted by chongololo
It was 4am, raining, mist and ceilings at around 800ft. The conditions weren't great but that's no excuse for my terrible perfomance.
05-30-2009, 06:28 PM
#14
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2006
Position: DA50EX
Posts: 240
At least you realized it was a crappy approach. The guys who scare me are the ones who fly like that all the time and think they are doing great cause they found the runway.
We all have our off days/weeks/months; learn from it and try not to let it bug you too much cause its going to happen again at some point.
We all have our off days/weeks/months; learn from it and try not to let it bug you too much cause its going to happen again at some point.
06-01-2009, 03:44 PM
#16
Tuk er jerbs!
Joined APC: Mar 2007
Position: B747 Left
Posts: 1,342
Originally Posted by FlyingChipmunk
At least you realized it was a crappy approach. The guys who scare me are the ones who fly like that all the time and think they are doing great cause they found the runway.
We all have our off days/weeks/months; learn from it and try not to let it bug you too much cause its going to happen again at some point.
We all have our off days/weeks/months; learn from it and try not to let it bug you too much cause its going to happen again at some point.
It's an experience builder that you'll learn from. I bet next time you go back up there you'll keep this little event in the back of your mind and nip it in the bud before it happens again. Hell, in the past few weeks I've had more than one of those "Huh...I'll do that differently next time" moments as I've been learning a new area of the country.
Just keep learning...
Learning never stops
06-05-2009, 02:39 PM
#18
Works harder not smarter
Joined APC: Sep 2008
Position: A320 CA
Posts: 142
You're in good company. Stay sharp and keep practicing. If you're rusty, request the loc, vor, gps, etc for practice. Will only add a couple minutes to your flight.
For some reason, I used to have a verticle speed issue while shooting a non pre approach. I would cross the OM and start down, yet while doing my scan I would come back to the VSI, noticing that I wasn't holding the 1500fpm needed to get me down to MDA. This would happen time and time again until one day it finally 'stuck'.
You talk about salvaging an approach. Flying single pilot, I have had my fair share. I miss flying solo, yet know it now to be safer with a two man crew.
For some reason, I used to have a verticle speed issue while shooting a non pre approach. I would cross the OM and start down, yet while doing my scan I would come back to the VSI, noticing that I wasn't holding the 1500fpm needed to get me down to MDA. This would happen time and time again until one day it finally 'stuck'.
You talk about salvaging an approach. Flying single pilot, I have had my fair share. I miss flying solo, yet know it now to be safer with a two man crew.
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