Search
Notices
Part 135 Part 135 commercial operators

Part 135 Cargo ???

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 07-24-2009, 06:47 PM
  #21  
Line Holder
 
Joined APC: Nov 2008
Posts: 51
Default

Ameriflight will always be Ameriflight. Back in the 80's early 90's It was all about Banks and flying checks. That was AMF's Cash Crop flying across the country coast to coast. Someone back then said hey wait a min we can do small feeder also. Now that's where there cash crop is. Revenue has totally done a 180 as far as Feeder/banks. By the end of the year you will hardly see any checks as mandated by law. The night routes and freight have deceased substantially. As opposed to DHL/FDX/UPS routes. AMF then ventured in to the Radioactive Material flying (7060 ops)

It seems as soon as AMF loses a route they gain a route Somewhere else.

Airnet's Story was Banks and only banks. They bet the farm on banks. A few years ago they started flying stuff for Nordian (a Radioactive producer) I think they still hold the contract today. The cost to operate a Lear as compared to a metro or a 99 is a no brainier. But Lear's were all Airnet has for long haul trips.

Where AMF succeeds is their reliability. If something breaks they were there with a replacement still making service. I cant say that about the other company's. I have seen other company's charter out there route to AMF because they had no way of recovering.
Planewatcher is offline  
Old 07-26-2009, 12:33 AM
  #22  
Gets Weekends Off
Thread Starter
 
NoBeta's Avatar
 
Joined APC: May 2009
Position: autopilot abuser
Posts: 166
Default

Thanks for the input everyone!

With 121 ops slashing hours across the board will that help 135 on demand cargo operators since less 121 ops will have cargo in their bellies???
NoBeta is offline  
Old 07-26-2009, 05:33 AM
  #23  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Nov 2006
Posts: 124
Default

Why is it that people think flying cargo is a bullet proof fall back? "I just got laid off from my job at the regionals so I'm going to go fly cargo" When the industry is hurting typically freight and cargo operators have been hurting long before the airlines. Look at most on demand operators right now, they're hanging on by threads and the business is very week to week..
JPilot77 is offline  
Old 07-27-2009, 07:05 AM
  #24  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Oct 2007
Position: single pilot cargo, turboprop
Posts: 484
Default

Originally Posted by NoBeta View Post
Thanks for the input everyone!

With 121 ops slashing hours across the board will that help 135 on demand cargo operators since less 121 ops will have cargo in their bellies???
Maybe, if they carry USPS in particular.
own nav is offline  
Old 07-27-2009, 07:30 AM
  #25  
Gets Weekends Off
 
freightdog's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Aug 2006
Position: 'Bus Driver Right Seat
Posts: 523
Default

Originally Posted by JPilot77 View Post
Why is it that people think flying cargo is a bullet proof fall back? "I just got laid off from my job at the regionals so I'm going to go fly cargo" When the industry is hurting typically freight and cargo operators have been hurting long before the airlines. Look at most on demand operators right now, they're hanging on by threads and the business is very week to week..
Hurting long before the airlines? Cargo is always usually the last part of the industry that is affected in a recession. It's almost always 1.) Airlines 2.) Charter 3.) Fractionals 4.) Cargo
No matter if the economy is in a slump or on the rise, in times of peace or war, people will always need to send boxes.
freightdog is offline  
Old 07-27-2009, 10:59 AM
  #26  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Oct 2007
Position: single pilot cargo, turboprop
Posts: 484
Default

Originally Posted by freightdog View Post
Hurting long before the airlines? Cargo is always usually the last part of the industry that is affected in a recession. It's almost always 1.) Airlines 2.) Charter 3.) Fractionals 4.) Cargo
No matter if the economy is in a slump or on the rise, in times of peace or war, people will always need to send boxes.
Unless you work for Airborne Express, Astar, Emery, Kittyhawk, Expressone, USAjet....

Don't kid yourself that there aren't a few part 135 operators on the brink of extinction either.
own nav is offline  
Old 07-27-2009, 03:51 PM
  #27  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Nov 2006
Posts: 124
Default

People always need to send boxes, and it's cheaper on a truck, own nav just touched the tip of the iceberg of freight operators that are struggling, I started flying freight 5 years ago and the industry was in a lot rougher shape than the airlines at that point, all the regionals were hiring like mad, pilots at my old job at that time were flying maybe 25 hours a month, freight hasn't been bounced back since.
JPilot77 is offline  
Old 07-28-2009, 07:00 PM
  #28  
Line Holder
 
FalconDrvr's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jan 2009
Position: FA-20 CA
Posts: 33
Default

Originally Posted by own nav View Post
Unless you work for Airborne Express, Astar, Emery, Kittyhawk, Expressone, USAjet....

Don't kid yourself that there aren't a few part 135 operators on the brink of extinction either.
GrandAire, Alliance, Cherry, Ameristar...
FalconDrvr is offline  
Old 07-29-2009, 02:08 PM
  #29  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Oct 2007
Position: single pilot cargo, turboprop
Posts: 484
Default

Originally Posted by JPilot77 View Post
People always need to send boxes, and it's cheaper on a truck,
It's not just about boxes and trucks either. Look at how much check hauling business has been lost to electronic imaging. Part 135 companies have taken a big hit with this.
own nav is offline  
Old 02-10-2010, 06:57 PM
  #30  
Apteryx
 
Oldog's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jan 2010
Posts: 127
Default

Originally Posted by NoBeta View Post
Hey all... I was curious if anyone could give me some input on how Part 135 cargo ops like Ameriflight actually make there money....I know they fly cargo LOL but I was just wondering how they get paid? I see these guys flying in one after the other in the early evening into KSLC to drop at the UPS feeder network here. I am wondering do they get paid by the pound, by the route??? Any insight would be great. I am just curious how they make there money because I know it costs alot to operate Metros, BE-99's and 1900's.
A lot of it is contract flying that involves repetitive trips over the same route, four or five days a week -- often out from a hub in the morning to deliver cargo to a smaller community that doesn't have enough traffic to support B-757 service, and back to the hub that night. Customers like UPS, FedEx, DHL, various courier companies, some financial institutions, etc., pay the bill.
Oldog is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
wmuflyboy
Flight Schools and Training
30
03-26-2023 06:18 PM
b18onboost
Part 135
35
01-10-2021 03:53 PM
slipped
Part 135
15
09-05-2009 03:56 PM
airdett
Part 135
13
06-18-2009 10:08 AM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices