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Old 12-03-2009, 08:50 AM
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BTW... ZBow, that is one kick-a$$ avatar!!

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Old 12-03-2009, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Plantation Air View Post
I hear you. Certainly don't want to argue. I agree that a good attitude is imperative in this game. I think these forums are an invaluable resource for those in the industry. It's a shame people constantly get into these grudge matches though. As I said earlier, I appreciate all your constructive advice and meant no offense in questioning your response to taymor. I'm just here to learn from those peers that have preceeded me in this endeavour. As an aside, I would go back to teaching, if I could find an opportunity.
No worries man, feel free to question me on something I write anytime... There are plenty of other times when I'm wrong! I'm still trying to figure out this whole crazy industry too.
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Old 12-04-2009, 11:47 AM
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I hate Key lime pies that are made with Persian limes instead of real Key limes!
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Old 12-05-2009, 10:23 PM
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Ahhh Nevermind... Nobody cares anyway

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Old 12-05-2009, 10:42 PM
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Now THAT was a post! Not so sure I agree with your POV on insurance, but overall GREAT post!
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Old 12-16-2009, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by tlove482 View Post
Maybe this will catch on in other fields!! Then I can go to the doctor's office and get paid for it or maybe have a lawyer represent me in court for free so he can get some much needed experience (I have no cases pending...just an example). It just isn't right to pay an employer to work. It's counter productive. You do a job to get paid, not to lose money.

On a side note, I appreciate everyone for keeping this discussion civil. It's great to see that things like this can be discussed in a professional manner.
Doctors spend most of their four year residency working for peanuts and lawyers clerk for nothing as part of their professional "dues". Electricians have to apprentice... I have a friend in a two year physician assistant program that spent one year in class and the second year working in his clinical time but paying $60,000 in tuition. All the best professions have their candidates pay to work before getting a job. Why is it wrong for aviators to pay for learning opportunities but not other respected professionals? Solid aviation internships followed by strong airline training departments and quarterly recurrent training could make a world of difference for us.
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Old 12-17-2009, 03:49 AM
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Originally Posted by tkr1967 View Post
Doctors spend most of their four year residency working for peanuts and lawyers clerk for nothing as part of their professional "dues". Electricians have to apprentice... I have a friend in a two year physician assistant program that spent one year in class and the second year working in his clinical time but paying $60,000 in tuition. All the best professions have their candidates pay to work before getting a job. Why is it wrong for aviators to pay for learning opportunities but not other respected professionals? Solid aviation internships followed by strong airline training departments and quarterly recurrent training could make a world of difference for us.
Because they get paid like professionals, plus I already paid my $60,000 in training costs, so your point holds no value. When a nurse has finished their education and have spent a year or two working for money, do they pay the hospital they want to work at a ton of money so they can eventually get paid by said hospital?

I cant believe this is even being argued.
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Old 12-17-2009, 07:17 AM
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If I would have known what a nurse makes out of school and all the programs for school loan repayment they have. That's the route I would've gone and then just pursued flying as a hobby.

My opinion on paying for SIC time, a crap shoot at best, could be a giant waste of cash. I did not do it, but do know people who did, I'm not sure they were any better off, at best it saved them a little time and cost them a lot of money. Just for the record I don't support someone paying for a required crew member spot, but in a single pilot airplane it's a moot point, and not worth arguing about.
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Old 12-17-2009, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyingPirate View Post
Because they get paid like professionals, plus I already paid my $60,000 in training costs, so your point holds no value. When a nurse has finished their education and have spent a year or two working for money, do they pay the hospital they want to work at a ton of money so they can eventually get paid by said hospital?

I cant believe this is even being argued.
We all know that it is not right, but that is the way things are.

Beyond flight school pilots continue to pay to work. They buy type ratings, sign training contracts, accept low wages to gain experience, and have to start over at gruesome wages whenever they change employers.

Everyone pays. Some pay in cash and up front.

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Old 12-17-2009, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by SkyHigh View Post
We all know that it is not right, but that is the way things are.

Beyond flight school pilots continue to pay to work. They buy type ratings, sign training contracts, accept low wages to gain experience, and have to start over at gruesome wages whenever they change employers.

Everyone pays. Some pay in cash and up front.

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But wouldnt that put them further behind the guys who refuse to "pay to play"?
What if the doctor that was assigned to you paid for that position in XYZ hospital and the other 10 or so guys who were plenty qualified refused to pay for that same position......
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