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tralika 02-17-2011 07:28 AM

I wouldn't buy any used bunny boots. Bunny boots are called Vapor Barrier boots by the military. The insulation between the inner and outer layer or rubber is in an airtight chamber. If there is a pinhole in the either the inner or outer layer of rubber moisture can get inside and soak the insulation. You won't know if that happens until you get frostbite. When I was in stationed at Ft Rich in the 70's we sent our boots in to be tested every fall. At least one boot failed every year and came back with a red stamp on the toe. The military replaced those boots and sold the bad boots as surplus. Most of the used boots at the surplus stores have that red stamp. I don't think the military uses bunny boots any more. You can buy new bunny boots for a couple hundred bucks but again your not going to know if you get one of those pinholes that will compromise the insulation. The main advantage of bunny boots is that they will keep your feet warm even if they are soaking wet, like if you step through the ice. For flying I think there is less risk of stepping through the ice but I guess it could happen. There are other boots out there that will work as well or better than bunny boots.

Take a look at the Wiggys products. The web site is wiggys.com. There is a Wiggys store on Old Seward Highway near Diamond in Anchorage.

You also might want to think about a fire resistant layer next to your skin. Helly Hanson makes insulated long underware that will not support combustion and will turn to ash rather than melt when exposed to high heat. It's made of something other than nomex. Nomex is great stuff but it will not keep you warm. The problem with the synthetic clothing is that it burns like oil (because it is oil) and melts when exposed to high heat. If you have ever seen the result on a person you will never forget it. I bought several pair of the Helly Hanson underwear at Eagle Enterprises on International Airport Road in Anchorage.

Frozen Ronin 02-24-2011 08:00 PM

Great stuff, everyone! I hear scratchpads scribbling down notes from here....

FlyOrDie 02-25-2011 01:00 PM

I didn't see it mentioned. I always have glove warmers in my bag, after losing the cabin heat one night putting those in my boots saved my feet.

All winter I carry a big dufflebag filled with extra gloves, head gear, another pair of winter boots. Obviously you might have to downsize if you're not flying a DC6.

Thanks for starting this thread. I know it could have been a big help for me when I first started my adventures up here.

Find a good quality headlamp. I use this http://www.rei.com/product/709063 it has a red filter so you can use it while flying.

Frozen Ronin 02-26-2011 08:53 PM

FlyorDie:
Excellent suggestion. I live in my headlamp in the winter up here. Come say hey next time you're up on Kotz!

Ronin

ASpilot2be 02-27-2011 12:41 AM


Originally Posted by akaviator (Post 946803)
Carhartt's Arctic Extreme Bibs. Bibs do a way better job when the wind chill is -40 (like it is today). A good coat that's made out of something tough (like Carhartt), a hood is really nice to have. With the bibs you don't have to have a super long coat so sitting in the plane with it on is a lot easier.

I totally agree. We use just the Arctic bibs at work, but they are amazing. They are really comfortable, and allow full maneuverability. Oh,and warm.

ZBowFlyz 02-27-2011 05:22 PM

Whats wrong with the regular SPOTs?

jbizon 03-01-2011 07:20 PM


Originally Posted by FlyOrDie (Post 954411)
I didn't see it mentioned. I always have glove warmers in my bag, after losing the cabin heat one night putting those in my boots saved my feet.

All winter I carry a big dufflebag filled with extra gloves, head gear, another pair of winter boots. Obviously you might have to downsize if you're not flying a DC6.

Thanks for starting this thread. I know it could have been a big help for me when I first started my adventures up here.

Find a good quality headlamp. I use this Petzl Tactikka Plus LED Headlamp at REI.com it has a red filter so you can use it while flying.




Cabin heat? What's that?

FlyOrDie 03-01-2011 10:08 PM


Originally Posted by jbizon (Post 956581)
Cabin heat? What's that?

A combustion style heater that provides heat to the cockpit in the DC6. Similar to a cabin heater/cockpit heater on a small twin like a Seminole. The night ours quit in less than 5 minutes it was -40 degrees in the cockpit.

Scooter2525 03-03-2011 10:22 AM

I used the Carharts artic bibs for freight flying all last winter. Some places I flew into got down to -40 and they did a good job of keeping me warm. +1 on the bibs.


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