TMC- Travel Management Company
 

Does anyone have the inside info on this company? Is it a pleasant place to work? Do they start you more than 45k if you meet and exceed all of the captains minimums? Do they pay per diem? Do you get crew food on short turns or early starts? Do you stay in nice hotels or the flea bag inn? Is the moral positive being that it's a 15/13 work schedule? How long is it from new hire to upgrade? Any other info good or bad would be appreciated.

Unless you really really needed a job....................

Tell me what you have heard? I may really want to leave my current job. What attracts me is the home basing. I'm currently working for a operation where u are off when the plane is in mx. I am also living in a city I don't want to be in.

It may be a toss up then. Living where you want is a definite plus.

We had some furloughees go there. And it wasn't a good experience for the most part. Definitely better places to work, but unfortunately those better places aren't all hiring. Use it to gain experience until something better comes is my advice...

I wouldn't go there expecting to be happy for very long once the new company stink wears off.

This coming from someone who is furloughed from NetJets...

No crew food like NetJets, then again TMC doesn't have 450 on the street. Usually stay at the lower end Hilton/Marriott properties, ie Embassy, Hampton, ect. Great group of people at TMC. Get a lot of trips thru brokers, which can be annoying.

Well since I don't really really need a job..yes...would I leave a halfway decent job to go to TMC...no...

I have heard from several people who have passed through TMC (not all of them NJ) who haven't had much good to say about them....And from what I've heard, there have been atleast a couple newhires who were almost immediately layed off from TMC. You don't have a union therefore a furlough is not an option. It is called a layoff in the regular world.


Needing a job is one thing, leaving another job is another.

The OP asked what anyone knows about them, I posted what I've heard first hand.

Slightly off kilter - but what are the higher end properties?
Last two jobs I've had I've stayed mainly at Hampton and Embassy (Hiltons), or Residence Inns for Marriott properties, and have found them to be very nice places to stay. The Embassy I stayed at for Initial had one of the best breakfasts that I've ever seen at a hotel, but then again I don't claim to have stayed at many 5 stars hotels either :)

USMCFLYR

Didn't say there was anything wrong with them, just in essence stating your not taking the mainline Hilton/Marriott hotel shuttle sitting next to a NetJet crew...

at my current job we stay at hamptons and courtyards often. I've heard horror stories from other crews that stay at the $29.99 motel 6's in the worst part of town, not from TMC crews. just saying. I am also not looking at staying long term unless they could compete with what some of the top fracs have to offer. I just want to be able live where I want. I've had a lot of changes in my life over the past year. Do you get raises every year or are they on a pay freeze?

I was there. Pay, Per Diem and Hotels, while not great, are not the problem. 135 On Demand and the FAA's willingness to look the other way on rest issues is the problem. No Flt. Ops. or dispatch support is the problem. Yer on yer own.

TMC is better than no job but worse than most jobs you already have. Yea, home based is nice but 15 on/13 off SUCKS!

The bloom will be off the on day 2 of Indoc. when they tell you that you won't be able to have a beer while on your 2 week rotation.

Conrad (by Hilton), Four Seasons, and Fairmont are a solid step up and found world wide. Unfortuantely, Four Seasons and Fairmont have rewards programs that only work on their properties. If you rack up a lot of Hilton points (embassy, doubletree, hampton) you can burn them at Conrad for a little luxury vacay.

The highlighted properties are the most popular in my office along with Hilton Garden Inns. Marriott being second. I've been very happy with the properties that I have stayed at in the past few months. In my prior job I mostly stayed at Marriott Residence Inns and enjoyed my stays. Finding rooms 'in-rate' can be tough sometimes though. The places that I stay at now are certainly nicer than 99% where I stayed in during my military career!

USMCFLYR

Are they hiring? Bases, pay , schedule?

I heard about 5 months ago that they were hiring. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but you are home based, around $50K, and 15/13.

Any word on timeline for getting on with TMC? Getting an interview, hereing back on results? Thanks.

I did the phone interview on 11/15 I think? Had the interview 11/22, was hired on 12/13 I think? and got the class date just prior to Christmas. They are all very busy over there, but super nice. They are all wearing a lot of hats. Looking forward to class this month!

What type of mins are they looking for? Their website does not post it...

mins
 

When I talked to a manager, he said the mins were at least 2,500 TT because of insurance. I can't remember what the rest was....

But if you are interested in the company then send in your resume and let the company tell you, "thanks but no thanks"; better than assuming it is a "No" and sending them nothing.

Do they still pay by the hour/flight/day or whatever it was, with no minimum guarantee? I seem to remember somewhat of an exodus when something like this happened.

Yea that's how they pay you... by the day. If you are assigned to an aircraft and available to fly, you get paid for that day. It caused a lot of resentment, but not an exodus. If pilots had a better place to go, they were already there.

Does anyone have any information on how to get your resume to these guys? MurkDaddy..you said that you talked to a manager. Did you cold call them then?

No I didn't cold call them. I met the manager at a lunch-in and we just started talking. He told me to just apply on the website and he would be on the look out for it but I was a little short on TT. So I would recommend sending in your resume and, what has worked for me in the past, cold calling the HR department to "confirm" they received your resume/application. I have got a few interviews this way.

Private Jets, Air Charter Services - Travel Management Company and click on the careers tab.

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Anyone have any interview/sim gouge willing to share? plz post or pm,
Appreciate your help.

Thanks

Any chance the 15/13 will go away or is it too good a deal for mgmt/scheduling to get rid of?

Not anytime soon. It's an employers' market. The schedule can work out nicely for some people. And the 15/13 is set, so you can count on being home. Still, it's a tough act to juggle for the family guys.

I am a 121 guy looking to transition into the Fractional world. While on your 2 week rotation, is it likely that you will be on the road for the entire 2 weeks or if there is no flying scheduled are you at home?

There are two schedules.

1. 15 on/13 off

2. "Reserve" or Flex" which is Max of 15 days on followed by a prorated days off.

ex. if you are gone 15 days, you get a MINIMUM 10 days off (Usually get a couple more than that). If you are gone less than 15 days, there is a scale for how many days off. 10 days gone, 6 days home or something like that.

But once you leave, it is very rare you are gone less than 15 days......

Also, Mods, this thread does not belong in the fractional category. TMC is strictly Part 135 Charter operations. Please make the necessary adjustments.

Looks like it got moved from Fractional to Part 121 Charter forum. This thread should be in the Part 135 section.

Part 135 - Part 135 - Part 135

Why would you do that? As someone who came from 135/91/Fractional to the Airlines I would not want to go back anytime soon.

You will be GONE for 2 weeks, where will you be? you probably wont know until the day of. Most of the planes do not have a 'home base' per-se.... so if you are flying a charter from NYC to Chicago, you will not return back to NYC at the conclusion of the charter, you will stay in Chicago(even if there is no potential flying) so that sales can try and sell a trip back to NYC, or anywhere else).

One thing to remember is even if the pay is annoying, and union issues are prevalent, in a airline all you do is fly. Thats it. On the charter side you have no real dispatch, no real customer service, nothing. Its all you. Your job is realistically 25% kiss-ass, 25% waiter, 25% on-the-road problem solver(wait the hotel you book us into actually doesn't have any rooms?!)... oh and 25% pilot.

You can teach a monkey to fly. Some of us prefer the challenges and change-ups that come with running the whole show.

As someone who went from the airlines to 91, I will say the exact same. Couldn't pay me enough to go back to the airlines.

I enjoy the challenges of making it all work on a day to day basis. Actually using brain power instead of sitting there like a robot doing the same routes day after day.

Oh, and more money, no commuting, more time at home, flexible schedule, good hotels, free food, and variety of destinations.

I agree too. While working 135 charter isn't always an easy job, I certainly enjoy the challenges that it presents. It certainly beats the constant hub and spoke shuttling of 121. Granted you will still get to know quite a few airports quite well; TEB and HPN come to mind for East Coasters. If you've had any type of service job before it's no different and attention to detail is key.

One of the things I like is that if we're in a city for a few days...waiting for the return for the charter or awaiting orders, we usually get a chance to go out and explore cities meet up with friends for dinner, etc. Rarely did I ever have time for that on min rest 10hr (if your lucky) overnights with the airlines.

Former airline here, I left 5 years ago and never looked back. I actually cringe when I need to airline somewhere to fetch one of our airplanes, luckily that is far and few between.The only downside to owner/charter flying is the tips, and fringe benefits such as free numerous sport game tickets I recieve. Just joking!

Looked on their website earlier here's what they're asking for mins:

H400/H800XP PIC
3500 TT
2000 PIC
250 PIC in type
1500 ME
300 Instrument

H400/H800XP SIC
2500 TT
1200 PIC
500 ME
150 Instrument

See these guys a lot in the Northeast a lot especially over at Teter-hole.

Also, Internal recs weight heavily, as in most cases.

As a former airline guy, I actually like flying 1 or 2 legs a day, trans-country, free food(I haven't paid for a meal in 3 days between bfast at hotel and catering), new cities (Class B airports and uncontrolled), HF oceanic flying, 1 to 8 passengers instead of 50 (and I don't 'kiss-ass', I am polite and professional as I was with my 50 passengers and I had several hundred dollars in tips last rotation).

Each job is different. Some people may like going from DTW to GRR 7 times a day for 4 days then go home. And that's OK! We can help provide information and help people make an informed decision.

PM me for more info.

Are you with TMC? I thought almost all the trips were Sentient, which strongly encourage their passengers to not tip the pilots.

I will not discuss exactly who is a customer of TMC (or how much business comes from said customer); that is inappropriate and unprofessional in this setting.

However, in reference to your last statement: I am not sure if that is accurate or not (sounds like rumor or hearsay to me), but in my past experiences that statement is not correct.

Tipping is relatively rare for any customer. IMO, any tip is bonus and I am thankful every time I get a one.

As always, PM me for more info.

RJ, I am new to APC, and i can not send you a PM, but I have an interview with TMC on Tuesday, May 15th. Any hints, tips or advice you could offer would be very much appreciated. Thanks