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Old 04-22-2021, 05:58 AM
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I'm assuming it is a part time position
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Old 04-22-2021, 07:52 AM
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That is genuinely unbelievable.
the sad part is that I will bet they get a lot of applicants. not many options for 250hr guys when many flight schools aren't even hiring cfi.
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Old 04-22-2021, 12:59 PM
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They just posted a new FO position.... $12/hr with a 57 hour guarantee.
That less than minimum wage full time at McDonalds?
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Old 04-22-2021, 01:05 PM
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I'm pretty sure at the local glider club I tow at, if I offered to tow all three days of the week they are open for the entire month, I could bring in more than $684.

And glider towing is definitely not a financial windfall.
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Well I wasn’t aware that they hire people with only 250 hours. I’m so used to seeing hiring requirements at 1500 hours I just thought $12 bucks an hour for somebody that is at ATP minimum’s is absolutely absurd, with that being said with a 250 hour wet commercial ticket $12 bucks an hour isn’t bad because it’s probably more than what you get banner towing or flying sky divers.
While I can partially agree with your statement, it still isn't right that someone who has invested the time and money to obtain even a 250 hr wet single engine commercial certificate, should not be paid less than those who walk right into Chick-Fil-A with zero investment required for their job. That's not even including the massive QOL differences between the two. This is the ongoing issue I had mentioned before; as long as pilots are willing to sell their bodies out for "that first job", companies are more than happy to oblige and pay crappy wages.
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Old 04-23-2021, 04:24 AM
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Anecdotally, I was told this was a decent gig pre-covid. What changed?
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Old 04-24-2021, 03:12 AM
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Originally Posted by SonicFlyer View Post
They just posted a new FO position.... $12/hr with a 57 hour guarantee.
I hear that their pilots are getting more than 43 hrs. a month over guarantee typically. Is this true?
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Old 04-25-2021, 02:28 PM
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A few points -

That $12/hr is for 6 months on probation, then it doubles. Yea, that sucks but the alternative isn't any better as a 250hr CPL. You wouldn't make much more as a CFI, and you build turbine airline experience. My wife has been online on the Mokulele side since August and has been working her ass off. 100 plus hours a month has been the norm for the last several months. Additionally, they have a pathway program to Skywest with scheduled bonuses at certain benchmarks (passed checkride, upgrade etc). Has it been without challenges? Of course not. But to warn people away is misguided and inaccurate imo. From what I've seen, it's been an excellent way to bridge that HUGE gap between 250 and 1500 hrs, and all but lock in a job at Skywest.
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Old 04-25-2021, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by QRH Bingo View Post
While I can partially agree with your statement, it still isn't right that someone who has invested the time and money to obtain even a 250 hr wet single engine commercial certificate, should not be paid less than those who walk right into Chick-Fil-A with zero investment required for their job. That's not even including the massive QOL differences between the two. This is the ongoing issue I had mentioned before; as long as pilots are willing to sell their bodies out for "that first job", companies are more than happy to oblige and pay crappy wages.
The counterpoint is that Chick-fil-A job doesn't come with the chance of morphing into a multi-million dollar career.

The fist two levels of flying are the price of admission to this career. Southern/Mokulele are definitely Second Level.

First Level = You pay to fly
Second Level = You fly for free
Third Level = You get paid to fly
Fourth Level = You get paid not to fly
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Please, no one actually apply for that level of abuse.
Please educate yourself before you pontificate.
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