Southern Airways Express
 

Does anyone have any info on these guys? Looks like they fly beach goers and golfers from Memphis and Birmingham down to the gulf in Caravans. I'm of course interested in the usual...hiring minimums, pay, bases, etc.

http://www.iflysouthern.com/

Thanks!

Are they Hiring? I met one of their Senior Pilots at an FBO and was impressed with what he had to say. I think there is a real market for this type of travel. I just want to know what they pay their pilots and if they are hiring.

They're callsign is "Lightspeed".

In a Caravan.

How does this company make money? I dont know how much of their flying is EAS.

Hello everyone,

Apparently since 2013 they've grown a little bit, and they'll keep doing it in the near future.

They're hiring in Climb350, both CA and FO. And I'd like to know if any of you have some information about the first officer quality of life and conditions nowadays.

They say no pay during training, and pay starts after checkride. First 6 months $12/h and after that $18/h.
"Pilots fly +65h/month", but not sure if there's a guarantee. Not a word about per diem, or CASS, MyIDTravel, and health insurance is "offered", so I understand it's not included unless you pay for it.

So I'd really really like to know if this is true or there are benefits hidden somewhere. Otherwise if you fly 65h one month you'd basically make $780 that month. Seriously?

65hrs is the guarantee. No travel benefits as of the last time I talked with a friend there in June. You get based at an outstation or at PIT.

If it wasn't for the low pay I would have went there two years ago. Was even considering going there earlier this year once I hit 135 mins as they began switching to the caravans but still no pay in training...

Any idea about the final pay? And so you know how much are they flying on average per month?

It's an excellent way to build time if you don't mind the income (or lack there of). Most everyone there who reaches 1200 hours or so gets sucked up by a regional. So if you are willing to suffer for about a year for something better, it is well worth it. Beats flight instructing and you get the 135 experience working as a crew. The average line is about 77 hrs and can go as high as 95 with about 15 day off per month. You are flying about 5 to 7.5 hrs in a 12 hour duty day. Health care is about $135 month. Half of which is taken out each pay.

Are you flying for them Tracer? Do you know where newbies get based?
Yeah instruction is not an option for me! :)

Check your PM.

Hey tracer997 or anyone else have any more info about Southern Air Express? There is NO information on their website. If not by Climb to 350, how or who do you apply?

I sent in my application via email. My information is second hand from someone still in initial training, so take it for what it's worth. No pay during training. $12 an hour, 65 hours a month guaranteed. Upgrade right at 1200 TT, and captains get either a 55,000 or 65,000 yearly salary. I can't remember the exact amount for the captains. I believe it's a year contract, but I'm not entirely sure. They have CASS. They didn't have a check airman for a while because something happened with his certificate/FAA/company. But he was supposed to be recertified as of 11/17, but I haven't heard if that has been accomplished.

O.K. thanks, when you said you sent in a application, did you mean resume and if it was a app, where did you get it and what e-mail address did you send it to?

No applciation as far as I know, just an email "[email protected]"

What Javichu said. Apologies for the poor word selection. Emailed my resume to [email protected].

Any luck with that email? or still waiting :eek:

Still waiting.

What's your total time if you don't mind me asking?

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556.9 TT. 472.3 PIC, 216.0XC. Of my total time, almost 510 hours are in various Cessna models. No Caravan or turbine time, though.

Good numbers. Did you try Mokulele? Apparently the magic number is around 600h TT right now.

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I did. I got an email about two weeks after I applied that they have filled the position, but I'm welcome to reapply. They don't keep applications on file, so I would have to reapply for each new posting. Which I completely forgot about. I'll have to keep an eye on them, so thanks for asking!

I also tried Air Choice One. I actually interviewed with them last week Tuesday. They said I'd hear something by the end of last week. Haven't heard anything yet.

Well, they posted again like 2 days ago, so go ahead :)

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Application has been sent. Thanks for the point out!

No problem

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For anyone else that's curious, they do pay during your training now. They have been sending FOs and CAs to Flight Safety in Wichita. I haven't got in the line yet, but i expect I'll be flying between 90-100hrs per month. You can upgrade at 1200hrs - Capt pay is 50/hr.

PM sent :D

New EAS service from DFW
 

https://iflysouthern.com/job/pilots/

Southern Air Express has won EAS service from DFW to 3 locations... Hot Springs, El Dorado, and Harrison beginning Jan 30 with 3 flights a day. Operations out of DFW will pick up a few months after that bumping up to 8 or more flights a day.

Just some info for someone who might need it.

Are you a line holder? If yes, I do have a some questions.

1. Is CASS in place?
2. Is this commutable? I was told it was.
3. Any info about crash pads in various domicile.

Southern Airways Express has disclosed in recent EAS filings that it has executed a Letter of Intent to purchase San Juan based Seaborne Airlines.

Be forewarned that several different groups have recently petitioned the DOT for Reconsideration of the Order selecting Southern Airways Express for the EAS contract at El Dorado. Any associated increase in pilot jobs at Southern Airways Express as a result of this order, may be delayed or nullified by the outcome of the reconsideration petition.

While the reconsideration petition only involves the EAS at El Dorado at this time, the DOT docket for this award does combine all three communities of Hot Springs, El Dorado and Harrison. If the reconsideration petition results in a revised EAS order by the DOT, the EAS for all three communities could also end up being awarded to (an)other carrier(s) and significantly changed from the plans that Southern Airways Express has already announced.

The possibility of Southern subcontracting those routes maybe the only way that will work for them. Mokulele would most likely be called upon once again.

Glass 208s or Analog? Thanks.

Greetings. Does Southern Airways Express have any jump seat reciprocal agreements with other airlines? Thanks.

Nope......

Mesa Airlines and Southern Airways Express Create Pathway for Career Development with New Mesa-Southern Cadet Training Program

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/mesa-a...120000736.html

Anyone else apply and hear back? I'm around 600TT and applied a couple times last month. I was at LNS and saw the caravan land with one passenger, load 2 and take off. Good thing the flights are subsidized.

All steam gauge with a dual Garmin 530/430 setup. We apparently just got 1 glass Caravan, but it will be utilized in our Souhern routes only.

We're supposed to get CASS, but it hasn't gone through yet. Our CEO said it should finally happen by end of this month, but we've been hearing that since December.

They are desperate for Captains, but not so much on SIC at the moment. Pretty high turnover, so I'd just keep applying. You've got plenty of TT.

Where is training held and how long is it? Any contract?? What are the mins?

https://iflysouthern.com/careers/

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Indoc is in KLNS. C208 training is done in Flight Safety, Wichita. Figure on a month of training. Internal references may help if you have less than 500TT.