The Real Delta Private Jets Thread
#11
I don't know about a family of 4, but here is what I pay for myself:
$65 a month for:
High deductible plan ($3,000) with an HSA
Critical illness ($15,000)
Accident insurance ($40,000)
Dental
Vision
Life insurance ($80,000)
Long term disability
$65 a month for:
High deductible plan ($3,000) with an HSA
Critical illness ($15,000)
Accident insurance ($40,000)
Dental
Vision
Life insurance ($80,000)
Long term disability
#12
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2015
Posts: 122
Must be type-rated in the aircraft under consideration, preferably also current with some time in type, if not current, the last formal training (approved Part 142 training centers; Simuflite, Bombardier, Flight Safety Inc., etc.), Initial or Recurrent, must be within three years of hire date. Training within two to three years will require a Requalification course, within one year, a Recurrent. Type ratings received from "in-house" training are not acceptable.
Have they eased up on this? 1500 hrs is all they need now?
Concerning the schedules, can you bid/ask for certain days off? Or, basically is there any flexibility of when the 8 on 6 off starts each month?
Can family members use Delta flight benefits?
How much movement/growth is going on right now?
Thanks!
#13
Those hiring minimums were from the last round of hiring they did when they could be more selective. Only half the people in my class had type ratings in their aircraft. While they will take people with 1500 hours, they really want people they can upgrade (3,000 hours) They have upgraded nearly every FO who has the time, and the current FOs wont be able to upgrade for a few years so if you a lot of time, I am sure they will be interested.
The bid period is 56 days and there are two lines with alternating 8 days on/6 off. They don't mind you trading schedules with other pilots as long as the flights are covered and it does not require excessive airline travel. I know one guys wife was sick, so he got approval to go home early when a coworker volunteered to come out. Some people trade entire rotations with other people and end up doing a 15/13 schedule that gives you more days off in a year. Also, with the new PTO system, if you need to take a specific day off for a reason, just submit it to scheduling and they will approve it assuming their is coverage.
Delta controls the flight benefits, not DPJ. There are no buddy passes and Delta does not allow you to have a "travel companion." Your spouse/domestic partner, children, and parents get flight benefits.
There has been lots of growth and movement. I think there were 80 pilots a year ago, and now there are 200. On the Excel side, the most senior FO was hired in May. They more than doubled the Excel fleet in 2014 and will continue to get a few more in 2015. The CJ fleet grew a lot too. Last I heard, they wanted to get 15 CJs in 2015 but I am not on that fleet so I don't know the specifics.
The bid period is 56 days and there are two lines with alternating 8 days on/6 off. They don't mind you trading schedules with other pilots as long as the flights are covered and it does not require excessive airline travel. I know one guys wife was sick, so he got approval to go home early when a coworker volunteered to come out. Some people trade entire rotations with other people and end up doing a 15/13 schedule that gives you more days off in a year. Also, with the new PTO system, if you need to take a specific day off for a reason, just submit it to scheduling and they will approve it assuming their is coverage.
Delta controls the flight benefits, not DPJ. There are no buddy passes and Delta does not allow you to have a "travel companion." Your spouse/domestic partner, children, and parents get flight benefits.
There has been lots of growth and movement. I think there were 80 pilots a year ago, and now there are 200. On the Excel side, the most senior FO was hired in May. They more than doubled the Excel fleet in 2014 and will continue to get a few more in 2015. The CJ fleet grew a lot too. Last I heard, they wanted to get 15 CJs in 2015 but I am not on that fleet so I don't know the specifics.
#16
All new hires start as an FO. They have been burned in the past when they had to move them to a smaller airplane, or downgrade them if they lost airplanes. They determined they would rather hire pilots who are willing to start as an FO and that can become a captain rather than hire a captain who is unwilling to be an FO.
Also, DPJ does not have its own training department and CAE just teaches you how to fly the plane. It would be risky for the company to send somebody out on their first rotation as a captain. It takes a few rotations to figure out the way the operation works. I know another person with Excel time that upgraded in 3 months, so even if you start as an FO, it would only be for a short period.
As of now, pay is $40,000 for all FOs and $60,000 for small and mid size captains. The pay might be coming soon. They have mentioned having a meeting to compare our pay with others in the industry (except for NetJets).
Also, DPJ does not have its own training department and CAE just teaches you how to fly the plane. It would be risky for the company to send somebody out on their first rotation as a captain. It takes a few rotations to figure out the way the operation works. I know another person with Excel time that upgraded in 3 months, so even if you start as an FO, it would only be for a short period.
As of now, pay is $40,000 for all FOs and $60,000 for small and mid size captains. The pay might be coming soon. They have mentioned having a meeting to compare our pay with others in the industry (except for NetJets).
#17
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2007
Posts: 144
Doesn't seem like a bad place to work. I have a buddy that was hired there at the end of last year. He will upgrade any day now. He also mentioned the pay increase as well. The aircraft do seem to break a lot and the schedule does change quite frequently while on the road but it is what it is. They seem to stay true to getting you home on time at the end of your tour.
#18
All new hires start as an FO. They have been burned in the past when they had to move them to a smaller airplane, or downgrade them if they lost airplanes. They determined they would rather hire pilots who are willing to start as an FO and that can become a captain rather than hire a captain who is unwilling to be an FO.
Also, DPJ does not have its own training department and CAE just teaches you how to fly the plane. It would be risky for the company to send somebody out on their first rotation as a captain. It takes a few rotations to figure out the way the operation works. I know another person with Excel time that upgraded in 3 months, so even if you start as an FO, it would only be for a short period.
As of now, pay is $40,000 for all FOs and $60,000 for small and mid size captains. The pay might be coming soon. They have mentioned having a meeting to compare our pay with others in the industry (except for NetJets).
Also, DPJ does not have its own training department and CAE just teaches you how to fly the plane. It would be risky for the company to send somebody out on their first rotation as a captain. It takes a few rotations to figure out the way the operation works. I know another person with Excel time that upgraded in 3 months, so even if you start as an FO, it would only be for a short period.
As of now, pay is $40,000 for all FOs and $60,000 for small and mid size captains. The pay might be coming soon. They have mentioned having a meeting to compare our pay with others in the industry (except for NetJets).
#19
As far as the schedule changing, like you said, that is what 135 charter is. I have had about 3 pop up trips in the last 6 months. Most of the time you can trust the schedule looking 24-48 hours out. The problem is when you start looking at day 7 and 8 on day 1 of your rotation. That stuff changes all the time as airplane move over the country and aircraft are swapped to shorten repo flights.
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