5 Year Plan
06-04-2015, 04:52 PM
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5 Year Plan
WFolks,
Looking for some input. I am current military and another 6 years until retirement and I intend to stay until 20. I currently have about 2700 hours total and about 1500 turbine PIC. I have my ATP and a few type ratings on my ticket.
It will be hard to fly many military hours my last 6 years until retirement. I would imagine I may be able to log around 100 hrs/yr or so, tops.
To make myself competitive to be hired directly into a Part 135 Captains spot, do I need to come up with some other flying? Would it matter if I was giving dual in a Seminole or a Seneca? What if I bought a 172 and flew another 100hrs a year or so? Is that necessary to get hired, or will a bit over 3300 total and 2100 turbine PIC get me into the left seat?
If you were in my shoes, what would you do?
Thanks!
Looking for some input. I am current military and another 6 years until retirement and I intend to stay until 20. I currently have about 2700 hours total and about 1500 turbine PIC. I have my ATP and a few type ratings on my ticket.
It will be hard to fly many military hours my last 6 years until retirement. I would imagine I may be able to log around 100 hrs/yr or so, tops.
To make myself competitive to be hired directly into a Part 135 Captains spot, do I need to come up with some other flying? Would it matter if I was giving dual in a Seminole or a Seneca? What if I bought a 172 and flew another 100hrs a year or so? Is that necessary to get hired, or will a bit over 3300 total and 2100 turbine PIC get me into the left seat?
If you were in my shoes, what would you do?
Thanks!
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06-04-2015, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by P8ASW
Folks,
Looking for some input. I am current military and another 6 years until retirement and I intend to stay until 20. I currently have about 2700 hours total and about 1500 turbine PIC. I have my ATP and a few type ratings on my ticket.
It will be hard to fly many military hours my last 6 years until retirement. I would imagine I may be able to log around 100 hrs/yr or so, tops.
To make myself competitive to be hired directly into a captains spot, do I need to come up with some other flying? Would it matter if I was giving dual in a Seminole or a Seneca? What if I bought a 172 and flew another 100hrs a year or so? Is that necessary to get hired, or will a bit over 3300 total and 2100 turbine PIC get me into the left seat?
If you were in my shoes, what would you do?
Thanks!
Looking for some input. I am current military and another 6 years until retirement and I intend to stay until 20. I currently have about 2700 hours total and about 1500 turbine PIC. I have my ATP and a few type ratings on my ticket.
It will be hard to fly many military hours my last 6 years until retirement. I would imagine I may be able to log around 100 hrs/yr or so, tops.
To make myself competitive to be hired directly into a captains spot, do I need to come up with some other flying? Would it matter if I was giving dual in a Seminole or a Seneca? What if I bought a 172 and flew another 100hrs a year or so? Is that necessary to get hired, or will a bit over 3300 total and 2100 turbine PIC get me into the left seat?
If you were in my shoes, what would you do?
Thanks!
If you're looking at a Legacy airline, apply there 1st and regionals 2nd. Checking that 121 box will help.
06-09-2015, 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by P8ASW
WFolks,
Looking for some input. I am current military and another 6 years until retirement and I intend to stay until 20. I currently have about 2700 hours total and about 1500 turbine PIC. I have my ATP and a few type ratings on my ticket.
It will be hard to fly many military hours my last 6 years until retirement. I would imagine I may be able to log around 100 hrs/yr or so, tops.
To make myself competitive to be hired directly into a Part 135 Captains spot, do I need to come up with some other flying? Would it matter if I was giving dual in a Seminole or a Seneca? What if I bought a 172 and flew another 100hrs a year or so? Is that necessary to get hired, or will a bit over 3300 total and 2100 turbine PIC get me into the left seat?
If you were in my shoes, what would you do?
Thanks!
Looking for some input. I am current military and another 6 years until retirement and I intend to stay until 20. I currently have about 2700 hours total and about 1500 turbine PIC. I have my ATP and a few type ratings on my ticket.
It will be hard to fly many military hours my last 6 years until retirement. I would imagine I may be able to log around 100 hrs/yr or so, tops.
To make myself competitive to be hired directly into a Part 135 Captains spot, do I need to come up with some other flying? Would it matter if I was giving dual in a Seminole or a Seneca? What if I bought a 172 and flew another 100hrs a year or so? Is that necessary to get hired, or will a bit over 3300 total and 2100 turbine PIC get me into the left seat?
If you were in my shoes, what would you do?
Thanks!
IS-BAI and Wyvern Ltd require 4,000TT, 2,000AMEL for a jet PIC. That said, except for some bottom feeders, you are not coming out of the military and going into the left seat of a 135 jet. Two completely different worlds. We recently hired a USAF Guard C17 PIC with 5,500TT 4,000 jet. He is an SIC in the G-IV. Says he's never worked harder or learned more in the 9 months he's been with us.
Just get the time you can and find the job you can when you retire. Just accept it's likely not a 135 JET PIC job, rather an SIC position.
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06-09-2015, 10:40 AM
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What are your types in and which branch? Six years from now should be the peak of the wave. The fact that you are a military pilot will put you at the top of the applicant stack for 121 carriers.
06-09-2015, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by F224
What are your types in and which branch? Six years from now should be the peak of the wave. The fact that you are a military pilot will put you at the top of the applicant stack for 121 carriers.
Originally Posted by Captain Quint
Piedmont Airlines. Flow to American in 3-5 years. (According to 3 ads right on this page). And I'm sure clicking on the link helps support this site.
When I hear someone specifically looking for 135 jobs, I automatically assume they want the corporate "style" pilot jobs. Of course he may also be interested in airline stuff, but there is no chance to get hired as Captain.
06-09-2015, 01:22 PM
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I admit, I didn't really read the whole original post. I was just shocked and delighted to see a company advertising times for upgrade and flow through.
I focused on the title of a five year plan and noticed that these adds matched up.
Just 3 years ago who would have imagined the opportunities. There is an add from Go Jet here mentioning a $10k signing bonus. I know didily squat about these companies but if I was 25 years younger I would be looking into it.
Best,
I focused on the title of a five year plan and noticed that these adds matched up.
Just 3 years ago who would have imagined the opportunities. There is an add from Go Jet here mentioning a $10k signing bonus. I know didily squat about these companies but if I was 25 years younger I would be looking into it.
Best,
06-09-2015, 01:58 PM
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I have types in the King Air 200, 737-800, and the L-188 (p-3). I have about 850 hours in the 737, 800 of those are PIC.
I am interested in the 135 style flying, though the money of a 121 job is not bad. Seems like 2022 or so is going to be a great time to find a job.
I understand the progression from SIC to PIC in the 121 world, seems like more opportunities for a direct entry to the left seat in the 135 world.
I am hearing that I need to keep building hours where I can and something north of 4000 total makes me competitive?
I am interested in the 135 style flying, though the money of a 121 job is not bad. Seems like 2022 or so is going to be a great time to find a job.
I understand the progression from SIC to PIC in the 121 world, seems like more opportunities for a direct entry to the left seat in the 135 world.
I am hearing that I need to keep building hours where I can and something north of 4000 total makes me competitive?
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