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Old 07-27-2015, 06:53 PM
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Call it Surfair Part 2....

Sorry if this has already been discussed, but the number of airplanes to be used is pretty astounding. The founder of Beacon is also the founder of Surfair and Beacon will partner with Dynamic Aviation and operate a mix of 27 used B200s and B1900Ds reconfigured in a 9-seat executive layout initially between HPN-BOS and later possibly to IAD and PHL (with HTO and Nantucket/Martha's Vineyard on the weekends). Members will pay only $1,000 to join and then pay $2,000 monthly for unlimited travel....

What do people know about Dynamic Aviation as an employer? What do people know about this Beacon operation including starting pay and schedules? I have a few friends with King Air time who live in the area who could apply... Looks like they are already looking for pilots at both HPN and BOS:

http://www.dynamicaviation.com/caree...enings/pilots/


Here's some additional information I found below on Google about the partnership:

Dynamic Aviation and Beacon today announced a strategic partnership to deliver a world-class air travel experience to Beacon customers throughout the Northeast, beginning with service between New York and Boston. The partnership will facilitate Beacon’s late-summer launch and rapid expansion throughout the Northeast.

As part of the agreement, Dynamic Aviation will deliver 27 mid-sized executive turbo-props manufactured by Beechcraft over the next three years, and is contracted to maintain and operate the aircraft for Beacon over the next ten years. Dynamic Aviation will provide commuter services on an exclusive basis to Beacon.

“Dynamic Aviation is pleased to join with Beacon, whose innovative vision and customer commitment has been apparent from the start,” said Michael Stoltzfus, Dynamic Aviation president and CEO. “Beacon’s attention to customer needs and expectations is the perfect complement to Dynamic Aviation’s longstanding record of safety and reliability. Together, we look forward to providing Beacon’s members with unparalleled customer service.”

“Beacon believes in delivering world-class aviation solutions. Our partnership with Dynamic Aviation enables us to do just that, by offering the most efficient aircraft to travelers who need to save time, money and precious resources,” said Wade Eyerly, CEO of Beacon. “With a record of successful operations for major clients stretching back over 40 years, Dynamic Aviation stands out as a leading provider of aviation services throughout the country. Combining this operating experience with the service experience of the Beacon team, this partnership will truly allow Beacon members to enjoy a one-of-a-kind premium travel experience,” said Cory Cozzens, COO of Beacon.

The launch of planned operations is subject to receipt by Dynamic Aviation of appropriate authority to operate scheduled interstate commuter service from the DOT and FAA.
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Sounds very similar to Wheels Up business plan.
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Wheels up is more slanted towards on demand club with a lower rate per hour than charter IIRC. Dynamic will operate under 135 commuter 9 or less like surf air as a scheduled air carrier. The difference with surf air is they own and staff the planes (pc-12) they use for the club. the advantage to the PC12 is it burns 60% of what the king air burns at practically the same TAS and payload, the aircraft makes the model possible. A 1900 with only 9 seats seems too wasteful to sustain. It will be interesting to see what unfolds.
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Wheels up is more slanted towards on demand club with a lower rate per hour than charter IIRC. Dynamic will operate under 135 commuter 9 or less like surf air as a scheduled air carrier. The difference with surf air is they own and staff the planes (pc-12) they use for the club. the advantage to the PC12 is it burns 60% of what the king air burns at practically the same TAS and payload, the aircraft makes the model possible. A 1900 with only 9 seats seems too wasteful to sustain. It will be interesting to see what unfolds.
True about the lower operating costs, but you can probably pick-up older B200s and 1900Ds for relatively cheap on the used market these days. I assume there will be a cost associated with standardizing the B200 cockpits as well since there are so many with different cockpits these days (traditional analog, basic EFIS, G1000, etc.). Maybe Great Lakes will sell them some idle 1900Ds.

No doubt the founder of Beacon probably has a lot more private equity money behind him for this venture after the initial success of Surfair.
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Also insurance will likely be cheaper on the ME aircraft. I have heard of plenty of King Airs that shut down engines, that's a little trickier on the PC12...
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Also insurance will likely be cheaper on the ME aircraft. I have heard of plenty of King Airs that shut down engines, that's a little trickier on the PC12...
AFAICT, Medevac is rapidly moving from KAs to PC-12s. There must be a reason...
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Anyone have any more info on this one? Pay? Schedule? Also, who operates B1900's with 9 seats? Has intone tried that before? Thanks.
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Has intone tried that before?
Not sure, but I'm pretty sure they've tried with zero and 19, so figure the weight and balance will probably work.
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I thought Great Lakes was operating 9-seat 1900Ds so they could operate them under charter rules because they were bleeding pilots and couldn't find/hire pilots with at least 1500 hours willing to fly for them. Regardless, 9 seats in a 1900D will provide pretty good space for the members - it's a pretty short hop from HPN to BOS. There are plenty of used 1900Ds on the market that can probably be leased at relatively low rates.
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I wonder if these are former ISR birds.
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